Cognitive psychologist and DARPA program manager John Blitch has a long history engaged in classified work. In his private life, he is also a lifelong close encounter witness, and this show marks the first time someone with his credentials and experience has ever discussed their close encounters with a fellow public witness. Listen and watch as John and Whitley go deep into the experience, which includes a discussion of why people like Special Forces Operator Jake Barber have said that they shoot down UAP, and Whitley’s amazing response to that admission. Don’t miss this historic edition of Dreamland!

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      This is fixed. He will indeed be with us tomorrow.

  1. We seem to have difficulty finding the YouTub link for Dreamland Subscribers. Could you please post that along with the download links for the MP3 each week. Thanks Whitley!

  2. The entities in plaid is something obsessive Forteans will recognize, but I haven’t heard it in a while and have been wondering if it still pops up. Apparently it does!

    For anyone who hasn’t heard of it before, entities of all sorts like to appear in plaid. Why? Iunno, best theory I have is that it’s visually confusing, especially when recalled or as part of a screen memory.

    Good interview, thanks

    1. I was just having a mooch around Google images and noticed that Disney Parks used to do a popcorn bucket in the shape of an alien wearing red plaid pyjamas!

    2. If you’re a fan of the TV show “Resident Alien”, you may have noticed that Harry (the alien in human form) is almost always wearing plaid shirts. He has a closet full of them.

      1. I’ve noticed that! I just took it as his Western-rugged look, fitting in with the folks in the town, but it’s clear that the creators of Resident Alien know UFO lore well, so I bet the plaid is intentional.

        BTW for those who haven’t been following the show, a mantid is central to the current storyline. He popped up at the end of the last season, and all we know so far is that he’s up to no good.

        1. Resident Alien is worth a watch? I tend to gravitate to more fact-based, historical series. But a little levity is needed right now. Alan Tudyk from “Firefly” plays Harry, right? Love him!

          1. I find the show absolutely hilarious. Tudyk is masterful, and a perfect casting. IMO, the entire cast is superb. The way RA ties in so many facets of the UFO mythology is fascinating, and it’s clear that someone has done their homework.

            Don’t expect too much “factual” UFO/UAP content (but there is some), because there’s plenty of artistic license used for story telling purposes. But to their credit, there’s very little shaming directed towards the characters that speak openly about aliens and abductions.

            Most importantly, though, is the humanity and love shown between the residents of their small town. That empathetic theme is played well against Harry’s mission.

            Oh, and I’m re-watching season 3 for the third time since it dropped on Netflix a few weeks ago. So, yes, I’m a fanboy. Take that for what you will.

        2. Oh yeah, the Mantid. Mr. Blitch’s mention of his experience in this week’s Dreamland coincided with me watching that very episode.

      2. We’ve been watching this show from the beginning. It’s funny as all get out, while also dealing with serious themes. It is also well researched as to alien/UFO ‘lore’, including as to the American indigenous population. Alan Tudyk as the alien trying to act human, while plotting against humanity, and at the same time developing a certain fondness and friendship for some humans is particularly poignant.

  3. To Mr. Blitch’s statements concerning Them wearing wigs, looking silly and out of place: John Mack wrote of a couple who interacted with a Grey wearing a big foam cowboy hat. The experiencers were told by the Grey that it was their way to make them feel more at ease…the couple owned horses on a large piece of rural property.

  4. I am having problems downloading the file. Is anyone else seeing this problem?

  5. What an excellent conversation. It was so very helpful in understanding the complexity of this whole field of interaction, and was done with great depth of understanding, goodness and integrity, and authentic forgiveness. Thanks to both of you!

  6. I’m going to paraphrase three things he said that I think will move the conversation forward in a much needed way in these divisive times:
    1) Bleed purple to build bridges. (That’s needed now more than ever.)
    2) “We can’t harm YOU. Your body is just your container.” If humankind can wrap their heads around that one salient idea that we are NOT our bodies—we are eternal and so much more than the physical— we can get over this dangerous silliness that a human body of a different color or shape is automatically good or bad depending upon the color and shape of your own body. Sheesh. Can we ALL speak up to put the breaks on that dangerous path, already?
    3) Forgiveness. Forgive yourself… them… the government, once they come clean. Start with yourself and the rest comes easier.

    And I’ll add on my own observation: Our belief creates emotional reaction. If you’re operating under a fear-belief, your emotional reaction will be fear-based and tunnel-vision oriented. Look at your fear and your definition of what it means to you in your IMAGINATION. Once you see it clearly, it becomes easy to exchange it with a belief that’s more in tune with your core essence of Unconditional Love. The latter opens your mind and heart and doorways to new kinds of positive relationships.

    Thank you for this conversation Whitley. Much appreciated!

    1. Whitley and other experiencers, does it seem like if you go into an encounter with Them in a state of calm, you have a different experience from what you would if you were afraid?

    2. 2) When the investigators start delving into the possibility of a soul or spirit which resides in each of us, things tend to get all supernatural-like. Which leads me to believe that ghosts, hauntings, ETs, religions, emotions… they’re all connected in some way. Hybrids – they can make the body, but what about the soul? Only the Great Creator I think can accomplish this. But that’s my two cents. Thanks for your reply. I enjoyed reading it, and I agree with your numbered points.

      1. “Which leads me to believe that ghosts, hauntings, ETs, religions, emotions… they’re all connected in some way. ”

        I came to that conclusion in the late 80’s, but then I had been studying, and experiencing so much of it already. As a matter of fact, Whitley’s ‘Communion’ was what clarified it it for me. I remember telling my ex-husband after I read the book (which I went out and bought the same day it was released), “All this weirdness is part of the same thing.” Getting rid of fear is so important. My curiosity, and wonder, often overrides the fear aspect. Not a bad place to be!

  7. Jeffrey Mishlove of Thinking Allowed has been doing quite a few podcast sessions about UAPs. Just a few days ago he did an interview with Danny Sheehan, which seems to have some genuinely new material.

    I wanted to mention it here because there is an apparent connection with the “school” Whitley was taken to as a child. Look in the timestamp list under “Children engaged in psionic work.” The idea was that children could more easily learn to communicate with the Visitors. Folks from indigenous societies, less compromised by modern life, were thought to have this ability as well.

    So Mr. Blitch and Mr. Sheehan both expect Marco Rubio to be able to do more about disclosure in his present job than he could as a senator. Mr. Sheehan also mentions Tulsi Gabbard in the same way. This had crossed my mind as one of the very, very few potential bright spots in the midst of the incredibly destructive chaos we find ourselves in right now.

    I’m afraid I don’t expect a whole lot from them in this regard because they have become part of an administration that is bent on blowing up the government rather than inducing it to work better, and that has shown little organization or competence thus far.

    However, Trump himself has a way of letting any thought that comes into his head fall out his mouth, so who knows what he may let slip, intentionally or not. Lue Elizondo listed him as one of the presidents who were briefed on the UAP situation, so he may actually know something. Or because of his inability to respect or keep state secrets, perhaps they didn’t tell him much.

    I trust Marco Rubio on this matter, a teeny little bit. (Not on Ukraine or anything else.)

    One way or another, we live in “interesting times.”

    1. Maybe something will slip out while Elon is taking a chainsaw to the Pentagon. Imagine what he might find! But I think anything concerning UAPs is so far hidden and protected though. Like, I don’t think Musk is gonna find MAJIC’s payroll in Cobol, lol.

    2. Elene, I feel that might have been one of the main reasons Rubio was appointed Secretary of State. Right now, I’m not trusting anything coming from our government.

      And “May you live in interesting times” is considered a curse.

  8. If they shoot down UAPs, or UFOs, what’s the chance that abducted human beings might be on them, a concern of mine? Best to let them be, in my opinion. Observe. Record. Investigate.

    1. Thanks for sharing this. It looks like it’s going to be a possible bombshell moment.

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