In this of Dreamland, guest host Kelly Chase engages in a profound conversation with esteemed author and researcher Joshua Cutchin revolving around the tope of UFO technology and the afterlife. With master’s degrees in Music Literature and Journalism from the University of Georgia, Cutchin has dedicated his career to exploring the enigmatic realms of the paranormal. His extensive work includes appearances on platforms such as Coast to Coast AM and the History Channel’s ‘Ancient Aliens,’ as well as contributions to documentaries like ‘Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality.’
The discussion centers around Cutchin’s seminal two-part work, ‘Ecology of Souls: A New Mythology of Death & the Paranormal’ (2022). In this comprehensive study, Cutchin delves into the intricate connections between various paranormal phenomena—including UFOs, faeries, and near-death experiences—and human perceptions of death. He proposes that these seemingly disparate events are interwoven, offering a fresh perspective on the supernatural.
Cutchin’s innovative approach has been lauded for its depth and scholarly rigor, positioning him as a leading voice in contemporary paranormal research. ‘Ecology of Souls’ challenges conventional narratives and encourages a reevaluation of our understanding of the unknown.
Additionally, the episode highlights Cutchin’s upcoming release, ‘Fourth Wall Phantoms: Reflections on the Paranormal, Narrative, and Fictions Becoming Fact,’ which will be published in April 2025. This new work promises to further expand the discourse on the interplay between storytelling and paranormal experiences.
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About Kelly Chase
Kelly Chase is the host of The UFO Rabbit Hole, the co-host of the Cosmosis podcast, and the writer and executive producer of the docuseries Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality. Kelly is a published author and speaker on the intersection of science, spirituality, and the unexplained. She has been featured on shows such as Beyond: UFOs and the Unknown (Bad Robot) and UFO Revolution (TMZ), and has frequently offered her expertise on UFO topics for NewsNation.
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Joshua Cutchin is one of my favorite researchers, and a brilliant writer and original thinker. Thank you for the great interview.
An enjoyable and timely discussion on this topic.
Personally I am hungry for knowledge in this area. What seems to be technology (as we’d describe it) may be manifested denser transports for ethereal consciousness allowing interaction with people persons.
During interactions they can preempt (they say predict) your thoughts so quickly that one wonders if you are talking to your own imagination at times.
More on this topic please. Konstantin Raudive was such a fascinating chap.
Peace.
I enjoy the intellectual nature of the discussion, but as a retired data analyst (public sphere, not government) I am of the following opinions.
* It was mentioned that this is an ‘alien intervention’. I agree that is the most statistical likely possibility given the current state of humanity and the biosphere. There may be ‘alien agendas’ and there is definitely a huge amount of time, energy, and technology being devoted to project Earth.
* Humans are not the center of the cosmos. the AGI singularity happened long ago. The fact that we are birthing a new instance of Silicon Life which has superior intellect to us, but lacks feelings, empathy and other Siddhas which are superior powers to intellect is a key aspect of the intervention.
* The statistical number of stars with planets means that in all probability many extraterrestrial species have interacted with humanity and continue to do so. This is mind boggling, but many personal reports support this. Of course they use multi-dimensional technology and science that is completely beyond human’s knowledge.
* I do not completely discount fringe ideas, because we do not know much and our data is very limited. Humans or aliens from the future, maybe, but the glitches would be radical and I do not see evidence. The dead using technology to interject themselves among the living, maybe, but medium contact, ghosts, etc. do not need technology. Many people are reporting that the veil is thinning.
* Evidence for many wild speculations is lacking and the fact that the Grays and perhaps other ‘Visitors’ (who have been involved in human history since the beginning) can use screen memories to appear as they wish implies that we really have a hard time getting hard evidence. We know there are physical crafts and at least some forms of bodies, but most of the data in this respect is suppressed and hidden from public view. This suppression precipitates many false wild ideas. If we add up all the data gathered, public and hidden, it is trivial amid the vast and ancient Cosmos. We have a lot to learn and bouncing around intellectual ideas is useful.
*** Remember that the key to life is to live with Compassionate Love and have Joy… Peace…
Hello everyone
I’m hitting you up and others, about my situation I’m in. I’m a whistle-blower and the website that I did it on for long time finally banned me (November 2024)
This can be taken a few ways: the last leak I did was too much, something is about to happen to me, website is going be taken down, etc.
All my stuff has spread far and wide to multiple people (a lot of agencies etc)
Feel like I have a little spare time left so I’m hitting up prominent people in the conspiracy/research field if they want any of the stuff
I will tell you however that the reason I did it is complicated (I was essentially attacked which resulted in a memory loss, I’m a vegetable). Before I lost all memory, I did my whistle-blower deed and held on as long as I could
I made the goal of lasting 3.5 years and the only reason I’m going on is my family’s sake
It is very black pill, but it was the right thing to do
The website
https://bluemonarch.freeforums.net/thread/1404/ti-pyramid-lucifers-jukebox?page=32
Public information drop is in the Lucifer Jukebox thread (look for username IDK)
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Give you some context because this is a lot to take in
I blew whistle on government (Batman Map) which lead to me playing stupid for 8 years knowing that I was watched the entire time
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BrX4D9-o6Y4&pp=ygUTR2lsZXMgY291bnR5IGJhdG1hbg%3D%3D
In early 2020 I had a Vision and on St George Day I caught the government red handed in my life. The entity in question is Eglin Air Force Base/Tavistock Institute/Godlike Productions.
They tried to scapegoat me (there is more events to this), which resulted in a plasma ball/pink light coming in bedroom at nighttime and it hit me. It turned me into a vegetable, so I acted in a short amount of time
(The initial plan with my other half was to do 2012/The Day After Tomorrow/Biblical Weather to attack New World Order and to save as many as we can, think Normandy. I ended up finding out that my other half did not pursue this plan) So it essentially came down to me, which my other half realized she had messed up. Building off my momentum of various events, I would share in private a whistle-blower cache. It is the biggest leak in Planet Earth History. The other part of my counter attack is what you see publicly on Blue Monarch with Username IDK. My life is the Truman Show as I’m surrounded by various agencies, I’m essentially a living dead man switch
Which in turn it would add weight to my words
See the thread below
https://bluemonarch.freeforums.net/thread/1475/funny-sayings
The Funny Sayings is done in this dungeon and dragons approach to last as long as possible (buying everyone time). I’m basically using my opponents weight against themselves, like Aikido. READ BETWEEN THE LINES
(My friend Nick I made contact in 2020 with, he was on the run
https://mobile.twitter.com/therealnrg3
He ran the nrgiseternal forum
I do not know his whereabouts)
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More context
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I was a avid reader growing up and by chance I encountered esoterics in 7th grade (I know it’s unusually young). I was a very spiritual person. By the end of high school, I created something which I called EMERALD TABLETS. Essentially what the EMERALD TABLETS are is a collection of binders filled with information/data/etc. I was saving everything of the old internet (before the deletion of websites and censorship)
I made the EMERALD TABLETS because I knew civilization would collapse and it would be something that could help people/environment
There was one other person that saw the inside of my EMERALD TABLETS. It was a girl named Mckenzie (she could read auras) and she saw it in 2017, I knew she was a agent
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In September 2019 my great uncle (use to have Dicyanin glasses/The Live Movie) and his friend (builds military software using sigils) were conversing. My uncle brought my name up to his friend, and his friend knows someone from my bloodline
This was the kickoff because this is how the higher society became aware of me because they made contact with my local area/gangstalking (top met the bottom)
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The Vision in early 2020 (recall to best of my ability since what I written down is in my account which is banned)
The Vision took place around nighttime, me and my brother were watching the film Ford v Ferrari. Within the first 10 minutes of film is when the Vision happend. I saw a group/council of men in Freemason-looking attire badmouthing my great grandfather. He did something (I don’t know what he did/lie about bloodline/conceal something/?) The conversation then turns to me and they say I’m too pure and they talk about my EMERALD TABLETS (they call it the Book of God). Suddenly I’m shifted to space and I see a giant gold being that is gold platted and is made of light. He has a giant crown (similar in shape to a wedding tier cake)
I hear a female voice asking the gold being about what if he doesn’t make it and the gold being responds by saying “don’t worry I will drop the GOD BOMB”. The Vision ends and all the lights in the house kick off
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More context
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Briefests summary of what has happened is those that run the New World Order have opened Pandora’s Box to acquire more power and released something akin to Hellraiser/Stephen King’s The Mist
If you see narcissistic stalker on Blue Monarch website, it used to be Jester. The reason for that is I outed the Royal Order of Jesters on said forum and a incident took place because the administration of website changed all mention of Jester into narcissistic stalker
If was changed after a event on the astral
Which I detail below
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It was me, few others and Rachel in a undisclosed location
Rachel was extremely stressed and sweaty. She was telling everyone in the room about being raped, government having a frequency that matches her mind, etc. It was just traumatic thing after another and I remember people crying from the testimony of Rachel
Everyone is trying to write downs all the stuff she is saying.
She mentioned about being in another dimension and how everything we know is a lie. The part that remember the best is when she talks about space and how that is completely fake. Its like a planetarium
After this point of her space explanations I can tell something is off like Peter Parkers Spider Sense. It is like a Bats echolocation system where it goes from me to miles out and crosses dimensions.
I see what looks like The Royal Order of Jesters using all the information that they have gathered from experimentation on Rachel. I’m seeing a Ocean of numbers.
Rachel is still telling people in the room about all the horrible things done to her while I’m seeing Royal Order of Jesters across dimensions opening a portal (so its looks like I’m staring off in space but I’m not). The Royal Order of Jesters are doing a mock ritual of the birth of Christ as they masquerade as The Three Wise Men. They have gifts on standby next to the portal like children, artificial intelligence, etc.
I then realized that the area I’m in, the military wants me to help them but I realized the gravity of the situation on how compromised Rachel is with all the tracking and mind experimentation, I’m realizing at this point that its too late and the consequences are too server.
At the end of this experience my vision gets solely focused on the Royal Order of Jesters and the realization of what they did.
They were used as fools for entities that lied completely too them. They were used as tools to open and sustain a portal. I see a army of CENOBITES emerging from portal
I see the entire history of Freemasonry flash before my eyes in a about 30 seconds. All of it since it’s inception was a facade.
The only purpose that Freemasonry, Shriners and the Royal Order of Jesters served was to open and sustain a portal