Dan Drasin is a brilliant polymath who, among many other things, is one of the leading afterlife researchers in the world. He keeps a low profile, but here he opens up about his research and his brilliant new book A New Science of the Afterlife. Dan and Whitley have known each other for 25 years, but this is the first time he has agreed to come on Dreamland. Listen to this enthralling show and get ready for your own future: you DO have an afterlife!
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What a wonderful over-view of life after “death”!!! Best Ever! I was with my sister in law at the very time she seemed to leave this world. She apparently re-animated her body when I touched her arms, then looked across the room and smiled. It struck me that she was looking at someone and it made her happy. I decided that it must be her deceased parents standing there to greet her. I have had many out of body expos. and have seen “passed on relatives”. This interview has ALL made sense to me! Thank You and Dan Drasin!!!!
Thank you so much, Sunbow, for sharing this link! I just watched the most recent episode, the near-death experience of Dr. Mary Helen Hensley. It was fantastic! I have subscribed to this channel and I will be watching all of these videos in the days to come. If they’re all as uplifting and powerful as this one, I might just levitate off the planet.
Thank you so much for this incredible show!
Such an enjoyable and informative listen. Until the mainstream scientific community accepts survival after death, the limited view from withing the 5% boundary between dark matter and bright energy remains confused.
We have been watching these NDE documentaries from ordinary people with extraordinary stories and I recommend them:
https://www.youtube.com/@AnthonyCheneProduction
Hands down, one of the most incredible Dreamland interviews I’ve ever heard. The subtlety of the conversation and in particular the fine detail with regard to our own bridge interactions with the Eco-System of consciousness left me both energised and deep in thought.
Aye, at times we do find ourselves helping the passed move up to their next level but it is oh, so rarely anything less than a surprise, if not downright scary lol.
A wonderful interview and a perfect example of exactly why I have never regretted being a subscriber. There is quite literally nowhere else in the world that I could have listened to such a discussion between two navigators of infinity.
Good Lord.
Peace.
Really enjoyed this show. Felt like you both were in my home and we were having a fun discussion.
Yes, it was exactly like that! Such a relaxed and enjoyable session.
BTW, Whitley, “The Day After Tomorrow” is showing on a local TV station here right now.
This was so much fun!
As someone who is very aware of the unseen around us, it is wonderful to to know of others who experience it with open minds and open hearts. I have also helped those in need, and while friends and those who know me have suggested that I go ‘professional’, I find it difficult to go that direction. (Plus, I tend to get too emotionally involved.)
I was also happy to hear Dan address the different levels that are present after ‘death’, including various levels of conscious awareness, because that has been my take based on personal experience. About 10 years ago, my uncle suffered an aneurysm and went into a coma. He was being kept alive by medical means into the day after the event. I checked in on him and found him in a white room with no way out, looking befuddled by it all. He saw me and asked what was going on. I said he was not to worry, so why not go fly fishing for a while? So, he went fly fishing! I could see it quite clearly. A couple of hours later, my aunt made the difficult decision to let him go. At his funeral, a video of my uncle fly fishing was shown, and it was exactly as I had seen him in his last moments. So,he died doing what he loved, and I’m glad that I helped him with that.
Before watching this interview, I watched ‘Calling Earth’, and I recommend it to everyone. I agree with Dan that how we see them is probably a projection for our benefit. It’s interesting that in the documentary while dealing with things like TVs and videos, the beings are usually seen from images of them in photographs. Since they are not appearing to one living individual, but possibly many, they choose a photographic image…curious. The documentary is several years old, so I would be interested to know if their images ever show up on digital TVs as they did on the old analogs? I know they show up on digital cameras, as do orbs.
Since most situations involve the dead that have passed in the last hundred years,in terms of EVP or visual images, my guess would be that they cease to appear once they reincarnate? Ghosts are different, and they can still be around once that soul reincarnates, causing all kinds of problems, both for the living haunted by the ghost, and that soul that has been split off into a new life with a new personality. Yes, it can all get very complex!
I’ll have to read the book to get more of Dan’s insights.
Bless your heart Cosmic. At times it seems that our place in the universe, or rather our conscious development is registered somehow. When needed, you popped into your role and played your part.
I often think of the French band AIR and their Moon Safari album and the role their beautiful music played in 1998 in raising so many people’s vibration at a time when the World was about to sink into violence and hate. That album was in the right place at the right time for me personally too, I can’t imagine how hard and worrisome my life would have been without it at that time.
Sometimes though, we are unwitting helpers to those in pain are crossing over. Couple of years back one of my neighbours committed suicide I’m very sorry to say. I was coming home from work that day and I solved them bringing his body out. The police were there and I realised straight away this was not good. Deep down I also suspected that I had been ‘spotted’ by someone or something.
Later that night I awoke in a powerful dream where I was being chased by a raging screaming wild boar. The rage and anger was terrifying so I climbed up a tree. It was desperately trying to express its anger and attack me but then suddenly and inexplicably I jumped down from the tree and grabbed the wild boar by the mouth and cracked its jaws wide open 180 degrees. The experience then faded.
I think it released it’s spirit or anger or something?? How did I know how to do this? I have no idea. A part of us seems at times to have instinctive wisdom that is part of a much wider awareness that we don’t quite wake up to in our day-to-day life. I suspect that sometimes we leave a remnant of our physical Life behind in a polarised state and I can’t help but think that some ghosts are a fragment or remnant left behind after the larger part of the Soul has moved on, which in itself is quite interesting or even depressing to a point.
The small village I live in had a Roman villa in it and I can’t help but think that something else happened in or near this village that left a powerful energy that people pick up on from time to time. There is a theory that there was once a huge battle between the Celts and the Romans in this area and I imagine that might leave a lot of powerful energy but I can’t be sure if it was here so, who knows?
Anyway, what a wonderful interview and I shall listen to it again several times over the course of the week. I’m so glad that we all have an opportunity to discuss such things here. These curious goings on seem to happen more often than we think but we tend to filter them out of our memory. It’s as if there’s a higher order of consciousness above us giving is all we need at the right time, with a gentle touch, like a gardener tending its flowers.
Peace.
Suicides…those are the worst to deal with and heal. I once spent a whole year working with a friend that committed a rather violent suicide. On the other side, this person was in a self-imposed exile in a zombie-like state. I finally broke through so he could move on.
Almost 30 years ago I also became aware that many of those on the other side have ‘jobs’, oddly enough, and some also do healing on this side and that side, and also have specialties too.
It was delightful to hear from Dan Drasin! I highly, highly recommend his “Calling Earth” and Scole documentaries. (Note that in the Scole material, a Gray or similar being shows up– he was a frequent contact and the group affectionately called him Blue.)
“Calling Earth” gives a great overview, with input from the leading lights in EVP/ITC. I was privileged to meet Vicki Talbott in 2018 and strike up a friendship with her– we have a spirit contact in common, and he seemed to give me a strong push to attend the conference where I met her. Her son Braden and his friend made a dramatic appearance too. Here’s what happened: https://elenedom.wordpress.com/2018/12/04/encountering-electronic-voice-phenomena-in-person-part-i/
Vicki and the Big Circle group are still doing EVP work and can be found here: https://messagesfromthebigcircle.org/
My husband, who died last April, gave a very evidential message with them a few months ago.
Mark Macy’s old website, http://www.worlditc.org/ is still available though no longer being updated, and contains a lot of classic material. He has a current one with quite a bit of interesting content, some of which seems pretty out there to me but apparently comes from credible sources: https://macyafterlife.com/2024/01/24/itc-09-spirit-faces-and-other-widespread-itc-contacts-g/ (You can see Blue’s face on this page.)
Regarding ghosts, I do wonder if the dead may “cease to appear once they reincarnate”? It seems like it may be possible for people to exist in more than one state “at the same time,” but I don’t have much understanding of that. I am reasonably clear, though, that some ghost sightings are contacts with spirits who are conscious and interactive, while others are like recordings that have been somehow stuck in the environment and replay over and over, and don’t communicate in any way. Two very different phenomena.
I was gobsmacked by Whitley’s and Dan’s stories about the long-dead men who showed up in what appeared to be a physical state. We’re told that Jesus did that and it proved he was more than human, but what if we can all do that and it’s perfectly normal? As the guys said, what if there are people like that walking down the street on any given day and we never notice? Really intriguing thought.
Loved this interview and the subscriber posts as well, thank you Whitley and Dan Drasin. Since I am a dreamer and have always dreamed things, I was hoping Dan would have shared the two lucid dreams that seemed to shape his future research. Here is something that happened to me years ago when my grandmother passed over. We were very close, and I was missing her.
DREAM: Right after grandma passed over…….
I am with my whole family, in my grandma’s house and all of us sitting around the kitchen table. I get up from where I am sitting and see grandma standing next to the refrigerator. She is upset and tells me that everyone is ignoring her. I take her hand and say, “grandma, you are no longer in the physical, you are not alive.” This is where the dream ends. My grandmother loved life and loved being alive. This transition must have been difficult for her. She died in her own home from old age.
NOTE: When explaining Ectoplasm, is it the same thing that Andrew Collins describes in his book “LightQuest:” “Your Guide to Seeing and Interacting with UFOs, Mystery Lights and Plasma Intelligences.”
A quote from an Amazon reader.
“What we’re talking about here is plasma – as in the natural formations of plasmatic balls of light energy which form as a byproduct of certain geological processes beneath the earth’s surface.”
The Monroe Institute’s week long workshop:
Guidelines helps the “lost dead” to find their way….. it is awesome!
You know it’s been a good Dreamland when you’re still thinking about it 4 days later!
I am 2/3 of the way through watching Calling Earth, so I hope the answer to my question is not already answered in the doco.
But has anyone in Dan’s circle looked closely at the descriptions in Philip K Dick’s novels of afterlife communication devices? I am thinking about Ubiq in particular (how that book has not been made into a film I do not know) and I plan to include an interpretation of it in a future painting.
I made a version of it as a 3d sculpt when studying game dev last year. Here is the link:
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/cryo-coffin-77f8b94643fa4847933f7fc0ea8af78e
Thanks for another great show Whitley and let’s get Dan back again soon!
One of the creepiest movies about a ‘device’ and death was seen by very few people, because Natalie Wood, one of its stars, died from drowning in the middle of filming it. They had to re-work the film and ending without her. The movie was ‘Brainstorm’ and was not successful.
Even stranger, considering that he starred as Whitley Strieber in the movie, ‘Communion’, was Wood’s co-star, Christopher Walken, who was on the yacht with Wood and her husband, Robert Wagner, on the night that she drowned.
Hi Cosmic, for a long time, that was my favourite science fiction movie bar none…it still gives me goosebumps thinking about it.
Apparently, as part of the movie production for ‘Brainstorm’, they researched and experimented with super-high frame rate, HD recordings. It was discovered that over a certain threshold of frame rate, and resolution, the brain is tricked into believing that what is being projected is actually real. If I remember correctly, they showed a movie to a test audience, which involved a guy coming onto a stage and saying words to the effect of “What you are about to see is the most realistic movie you will ever see” etc. ,then as part of the script he trips over some rigging and the whole stage sets on fire. The story goes that it all looked so real, because of the high frame rate, that most of the audience ran out of the auditorium screaming, thinking that the place was actually burning down…of course it was all just a movie…but their reaction was visceral.
Anyway, the initial plan for ‘Brainstorm’, within the movie theatres, was to show most of it in standard format…but then for the sections where the brain recording device was being used, they would splice in super high def, high frame-rate footage, for a hyper-real shock to the system. Unfortunately finantial considerations meant that never happened.
What an experience that would have been!
On a related topic, a good friend of mine works at a digital projection company, and they regularly project and scrutinise 8K footage. Apparently it is quite a strange sensation watching it, as the brain starts interpreting the image as having depth, even when being viewed without ‘3D’ glasses.
Another tip, to add realism to a high def image, is to watch it close up with one eye closed (believe it or not!), as, again, the brain finds it more difficult to distinguish between the flat image and the real environment, without the normal stereo cues.
Wow…so Wood’s untimely death probably played a part in delaying a type of ‘virtual reality’. ‘Brainstorm’ itself was about using one’s brain to produce a type of realistic VR. That’s just one of the reasons for the creepy factor, besides her death. For those who have not seen the movie, and without revealing too much, it’s worth watching now, in light of the topic of this Dreamland.
Whitley, the world is magical. I went to go listen to your podcast to feel better and last Friday on the 2nd when you posted this, my gramps passed away unexpectedly. And I wanted to turn to you because I know you still communicate w Anne sometimes and boom, that same day, you posted your Afterlife episode. I just know it is a sign he is with me. I truly believe there is an afterlife so I know he’s always with us but it still doesn’t hurt any less in the physical. Thank you for the work you do to open peoples mind, to help us understand it’s actually awful to have most people believe that when someone passes that it’s the end, when in fact it might just be the beginning.
Much love Whitley and Guest, can’t wait to listen just had to comment this first ❤️