Whitley and Linda Moulton Howe celebrate 25 years of Whitley as Dreamland host with a shocker of a 2 week Christmas-New Year’s special! In this (approximately) 1,300th edition of the show, he and Linda go on a wild and wonderful journey across the years, exploring the meaning of the “presence” as only the two of them can. Get set for an informative, fun, exciting and just plain brilliant discussion between these two great researchers–and enjoy the pleasure they take in their 30+ year friendship and their mutual willingness to dare the edge!
Linda has appeared on the streaming version of Dreamland over 40 times. This is the earliest appearance we have on file, from the broadcast show of 12/32/2000. Click here to download and listen.
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Wow!
Thank you so much for this wonderful show!
Congratulations Whitley on your 25th Year as Dreamland Host. AND MANY, MANY MORE. Sharing such a special anniversary with a good and longtime friend makes it even better.
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Simply wonderful! Thank you so much, Whitley and Linda. Listening to you discuss these very important topics has, as usual, been on point and so very timely for me. I am blessed to have the universe lead me to this show at this time! Thank You!!!
I’m looking forward to listening to this show later today. I know it’s going to be terrific.
Just want to say how saddened I am to have heard of the passing of Ian Punnett. It’s very hard to take in right now, but let’s all send positive thoughts of warmth and heartfelt gratitude to Ian for his contribution to our lives because he will hear us. Bless you Ian. 💫
As I dry my eyes, I think of the absolute joy and pride I feel when I think back of the two decades that Coast and Dreamland have been a part of my daily life.
Blessed Harmony to Ian and his beloved family. May Heaven’s Angels guide and protect you on your continuing journey and ascension Ian. 🌅
Peace.
That is sad about Ian. I loved that he was a professor at Kansas State my Alma Mater. His shows with Peter Levenda were absolutely fascinating. I will miss him
This show was spectacular, Whitley. Please do more like this. Very satisfied with this informative discussion and especially things revealed tonight. Lots to think about. Can’t wait for more of this — Linda has so much to contribute.
Thanks for what you do …
This show is indeed spectacular. Well said.
I’ve been trying to figure out what “Tranta” might mean (from the alleged alien species, the Trantaloids, referred to by Linda MH)…and the only links I can find are from the Dalmatian / Dalmatic language and from the Piedmontese language. One was spoken in modern day Coatia (an area across the Adriatic Sea from Italy) and the other from a region of Northwest Italy, so I assume both languages have links to Latin. Apparently, in Dalmation, Tranta comes from the Latin word triginta. In both languages, apparently “Tranta” refers to the number thirty, or numerals XXX. If they are insect-like, maybe they have thirty compound eyes? I’m just guessing, of course.
…And ‘trente’ is thirty in French…which sounds like ‘trant’ when spoken.
Some astonishing stuff here.
I felt some despair at the idea that war has been going on between those other species for 270 million years or more. If they, with all their abilities and technologies, can’t make peace, it seems like there’s no hope for humans being able to make peace among ourselves. I hope that this is not quite what’s been going on.
The talk about WWII being “an alien war fought with human bodies” was stunning. Hard to wrap one’s brain around. However, it was also a plot in Star Trek: Enterprise, and I believe it’s shown up elsewhere in science fiction. So the idea has been around in human consciousness for a while.
Also very Trek-like is the “beaming” from one location to another. Whether or not humans ever figure out how to do that on our own, I’m glad to know it’s possible. Whitley made an excellent point when he mentioned that if we traveled to other planets physically, we’d be vulnerable to whatever microbes or other dangers might be there. Non-material travel could solve quite a few problems.
I can only hope that the barren landscapes and empty buildings he encountered on other worlds reflected the far future of those planets, or at least, that whoever did live there thrived or is thriving somewhere else– even if it’s here.
While it’s disturbing to think of mysterious beings living under the ground or seas of our planet, that does give some hope that they will help ensure that this planet does not become uninhabitable anytime soon. And it does fit with a lot of what’s been observed.
Congratulations on 25 years!
Although, if these alleged underground residents are willing and able to stop nuclear detonations, to be perfectly honest, they haven’t done a particularly good job of it.
Since 1945, there have been over two thousand nuclear detonations, over five hundred of which have been atmospheric explosions.
So, although there are documented reports of nuclear missiles being deactivated when in the proximity of a UAP, and at least one account of a ballistic missile test being aborted by an energy beam from a UFO disk…it seems to me, that they (whoever, or whatever ‘they’ are) are either unable, or unwilling to assist in stopping the actual nuclear weapons testing.
And if someone’s reponse might be ‘Of course they are capable of stopping them’, then the question is ‘Why haven’t they’? Is it to teach us some kind of lesson? Maybe a ‘You’ve made your bed, so you lie in it’, kind of mentality?
You make an excellent point. I can only hope that this means they see the weapons testing as different from actual use of the weapons….
Having been involved in all this since I was a kid, and experiencing and researching it all for many years, I can’t begin to express all the additional, important information and knowledge that I have gained from Whitley and Linda, as far back as around 1985, beginning with Whitley’s ‘Communion’.
Linda was brought into the mix for me around 2001, and I have been subscribed to Unknown Country and Earthfiles for years. Even if you can’t afford the subscription to Earthfiles, at least view her YouTube Channel. She usually has a new episode weekly, and you can catch up with older episodes too. Her site also has extensive archives going back to the late 90’s (including the various beings discussed.)
This talk was great, and served as a refresher for me to also go back revisit some areas in light of new information and discoveries. The more information and knowledge we all have, the better—and it may enable many of us to assist those that become shell-shocked when/if real, no-holds-barred disclosure occurs, and maybe not by us, but by ‘them’. We must also never forget that this involves the whole world, not just this corner of it known as the USA (And we KNOW the amount of misinformation that is spewed just here. Can you imagine the scale of it on the entire planet?)
“Knowledge is power”, and “with power comes great responsibility.” I feel like that’s one of the reasons why we are here at this time, along with Whitley and Linda, who are sharing by putting information, and themselves, out there.
May I respectfully suggest and recommend Daniel Liszt, Darkjournalist.com and YouTube, Rumble, etc. as a guest.
He has been working on the UFO File for a long time and has uncovered a plethora of information regarding both legitimate information and “disinformation” ops by clandestine organizations regarding the UFO File. Exposing some of the characters who in the recent past have been paraded out in front of the public as “insiders” and experiencers. I am a “political athiest”(both the Democrats and the Republicans as well as others are all ripping off the citizens of our country) so, I do not pay attention to people’s personal politics whatever they may be. Dr. Farrell is a frequent guest of his and contributes much to the conversation. I believe Linda has been a past guest.
Twenty five years. Wow. I have a bunch of cassettes I am finally getting out of storage…
Whitley, may I ask you to look into the works of Austrian archeologist Dr. Kusch? He might be able to scientifically confirm the underground connection you and Linda talked about since he found, with the help of high level church members, large tunnel systems underneath Klosterneuburg. Dolan talked to German Ufologist Robert Fleischer about it at the end of their last conversation. There are figurines, metal objects (high on aluminum!) and scripture found in a digging horizon that has been confirmed to date back at least 55.000 years. If I understood correctly that is how far dating goes so they could be even older than that. Scripture is similar to Vinca, which is forbidden to be taught at universities because the Nazis had looked into it (and found stuff they don’t want the public to find). Parts of the scripture imply that this was a “foreign culture” from another planet.
The other thing Kusch was able to scientifically investigate was that some of these tunnels seem to be used for teleportation exactly like you describe your experience of becoming less dense. Kusch documented weird energetic anomalies that correspond to information he got from church members. Repeating tones by voice or instruments (alphorns that show up on these old religious paintings) could activate a process by which matter (humans and goods) could be turned into photons (making use of the wave-particle dualism) and travel one way to an exit point. The church sources had access to ancient religious texts (maps of the system) and records from noble archives that stated that there had been contact between humans and underground civilisations prior to the 1550s. In fact the events of Nürnberg and other European and worldwide sightings led the Vatican and other world religions to stop (open) collaboration with underground civilisations during the Council of Trient. They built churches on some underground access points and great efforts were undertaken (worldwide) to close of other tunnels and demonise the underground to basically stop contact The tunnels Kusch found were at least sealed since that time excluding modern hoaxes.
Kusch’s book is so far only available in German and includes amazing pictures as well as scientific analysis of what he found. In a recent interview he stated that he even found bones and a tooth apparently “not of this earth”. I think he is waiting to go English / worldwide until his findings are bullet and waterproof. He only published the German version to stop evidence from being destroyed further. Concrete is filled in to this day and some of his sources were silenced permanently. I don’t know if Kusch would be available for an interview (yet) but he might be willing to talk to you privately.
I never knew what to think about fellow German Tim, Linda mentioned, but the reason he is talking about dimensions might be German physicist Burkhard Heim, who was briefly mentioned by your friends Diana Pasulka and Garry Nolan. Heim developed a theoretical model of several non physical dimensions where time does not apply as well as a philosophical construct to explain what they are. He described it (and explained consciousness) as the “background of reality” where information and governing rules reside that interact with life processes through two way “activity streams”. Photons acting on DNA, somewhat similar to what Chris Bledsoe talked about when he mentioned the NASA “Green Light” study. Light that encodes cells with information. Heim’s theory might explain how remote viewing, apports and dimensional travel works. Like you said you travel by becoming less dense. Some ufos might (time) travel through this (background) reality by having a (bismuth-magnesium?) skin that technologically imitates the lesser density state (with a plasma field?), piloted by consciousness.
For example Heim assumes that similar information is timelessly “stored”/organised close to each other in these dimensions which can explain that you get a call from someone you just thought about. Unconsciously we are in constant exchange with and access to this realm (some undoubtedly very skilled which brings us psychics) and the “thought” then leaps over to another being because of the information closeness.
Heim whose story is extraordinary in many ways got first famous and then ridiculed for presenting a concept for a spaceship in the 50s. His math has been shown to check out since it can calculate the properties of subatomic particles without smashing them into each other.
Good Lord that sounds interesting!
Thanks for all that. Stuff I’ve never heard before of! I will look.
This was an excellent show and thank you both for putting forth many ideas. I love the fact that the ETH is being taken seriously, as disinformation has proposed every sort of crazy idea to push it aside; I assume to keep hidden the real story with elaborate mythology. So many world religions talk about a war in heaven. Was primitive Earth collateral damage? Is the war ongoing as suggested?
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My commentary would be that there are reports of many more species that these players. What of the Blue ground crew that Whitley dubbed as the Kabolds? If we consider the story as it is, only the old tall grays, like the Mature Lady on communion cover are said to have little gray AI. I think humanity should seriously consider why so many reports of beings rather than robots? Often the ships are said to be living AI, with organic beings riding in them. I find it unlikely that they are all types of biologically clothed robots, but what about breathing our air and viral inhaling contamination. The data still does not add up.
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If we are going to get the truth, we need to have amnesty for both the whistle-blowers and the perpetrators, many of whom are concerned with defending freedom and at the same time they are convincing the masses of lies and the majority know they are being lied to, thus destroying democracy and freedom of information.
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Thank you two also for making a point that we have living souls and there is much more than the physical drama at stake in our lives. It seems at least some of the ET are very well versed in the science of souls and concerned with our souls.
With regard to some of our visitors coming here in search of something more than their ‘bare bones’ planets seemingly devoid of activity can offer, I don’t believe establishes Earth as necessarily unusual. I would think there must be countless other ‘earths’ out there with boundless resources and (more) contented inhabitants (than us) with no need to seek out better alternatives. The universe is a pretty big place, no??
Yet, that’s not to say we, and others like us, aren’t somehow a scientific curiosity and worthy of observation… for other (mind blowing) reasons.
Either way, I do suspect there’s quite a bit of ‘traffic’ out there.
I agree. It is so hard for people to get out of the ‘we’re special’ mentality. I am sure the bizarre state of humanity at this point in time would provide some interesting studies.
It also makes sense that some species, collective, or other governing body owns or is responsible for managing Earth. Especially because we do not see open exploitation.
Humans are not the center of creation.
Whitley, a deep thank you for all you did till now. It is not easy, not socialy correct and you must had a lot of inner power to created this site.
I wonder if the II WW had been a conflit using humans beeings as cannon fodders, aliens not wanted us to use atomic power, so why did they used the atomic bomb themselves ?
To all listeners, do not forget to enjoy life and have a good pint of joy for 2024
Yes, enjoy life. After all, you only live at least once.
Having spent all week ruminating on the aspect of less dense transports/bodies I ended up pondering a question.
Are our current bodies merely temporary secondary transport vessels of a much subtler universal form? We tend to look different in lighter forms?
Could there be several universally recognised primary transport forms that serve a much higher purpose as souls experience life moving between denser transports?
Peace.
To all Dreamlanders and Unknown Country team I would like to cast the light of all tomorrows, lit in goodness and the wisdom of the light ahead and above to you and yours.
The deep resonance we all feel within UC.com and Mr Strieber’s work is clear. It is clear light.
I love you all very much for who you are. Distant and remote, we quietly work our craft, without hope of recognition or favour. We struggle in the light and yet, at times, are harmed. The harm tempers us and we speak to others about the radiance in our hearts.
Yes, we falter, but never quite. Here we are!
Peace on Earth and peace above. Peace.
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Peace.
VON HAUSENBERG…From my heart to your heart, thank you for such beautiful words/thoughts. I would like to close out the year of 2023 with this…Thought for the Day…
Sunday, December 31
“(Q) Will the New Year unfold greater opportunities for my professional advancement and my greater service to my fellow man? (A) These are part of self’s own development and must rise within by taking advantage of those opportunities which are offered from day to day. As has so oft been indicated, and this body will find same within its own experience, it is as we use that in hand that the greater opportunities are given.”
Edgar Cayce reading 1472-9
“(Q) Will the New Year unfold greater opportunities for my professional advancement and my greater service to others? (A) These are part of your own development and must rise within you by taking advantage of the opportunities which are offered you from day to day. As has so often been indicated, and as you will find in your experience, as we use what we have in hand, the greater opportunities are given.”
CCL 1472-9
*CCL = Contemporary Cayce Language
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Von Hausenberg, peace and blessings to you my friend🕊️Unknown to each other in “real” life and yet deeply connected, those that resonate with this amazing website are some of the most important people in my life.
Whitley Streiber, thank you for holding this amazing space open for us all. I will be forever grateful.
Wishing everyone just the right amounts of excitement, growth, grace and contentment in 2024 and beyond.
It was interesting to hear Linda tell us about how we have, for millennia, been a science experiment of far superior beings, and then, somewhat humorous to hear her voice concern about the danger to humans of us creating AI. It strikes me as absurd that anything that humans create could be in any significant way worrisome to our creators. Doesn’t it seem more likely that anything we do or create must be part of their “plan”?
I’m not sure an experiment and a plan could be classed as being synonymous. A plan suggests a manipulated outcome…most new experiments are performed because the outcome is not certain, or to test a hypothesis. To transform an experiment into a plan, one would have to observe and control the minutia of even the smallest of details. Quantum fluctuations (and descisions made by a conscious being) would interject so many variables into an ages-long experiment, that the outcome would become a mist of possibilities – the so-called butterfly effect would become apparent…Unless the experimentor posessed and regularly used some kind of ‘Looking Glass’ technology, in order to determine likely possible futures. In that case, we truly would be slaves to a manipulated evolutionary trajectory…but maybe a massively capable AI would be our only way to turn the tide against such a controlled reality. If that human-created AI were indeed a possible fly-in-the-ointment of external influence, then as an outside experimentor, I would be more than a little concerned that my ‘plan’ might be in jeopardy.
Remote viewing and prayer, might also be ways humans could try to circumvent any undue attempts at external influence…our evolutionary path needs to be of our own making.
I think there is a plan, or an agenda, something that they want and are willing to spend huge resources and vast amounts of time over ages to slowly get. Sub-agendas may happen throughout the process, but there is something very important to at least one group of the Visitors who seem to run most of teh show.
Linda has always seemed like a nice lady with her heart in the right place but there are times when I have trouble with her credulity – especially with respect to extremely specific things that have no proof like referring to 5 species of greys, 3 Arcturians or whatever. There are just too many things that don’t make really sense about the idea that there have been Millennia long wars between various factions of aliens to take completely seriously.
As for the political angle…I’m not so sure it’s necessarily fair to call out the Republicans so exclusively as the problem with respect to blocking efforts at disclosure – especially since Burchett, Luna, Gaetz and Rubio have been so vocal about the pressing the issue when some democrats have shied away from it. In regards to whoever might be president – I’m of the mind that if anyone would have a better chance at being a disclosure president it would be Trump since he’s not an insider nor is he necessarily beholden to defense donors. What we know for sure is that Biden is a beltway creature through and through – i would wager as extremely unlikely that he’d upset the apple cart.
I get not wanting to coming across as political (these days it’s a minefield) but to me it’s always been clear that the majority of views here skew left of center – including Whitley himself. That’s okay – despite being in the conservative/libertarian part of the spectrum myself, it doesn’t dissuade me from engaging with the subject or the site in particular (well with maybe one exception) – I’ve always found the ideas being tossed around to be interesting; even when I might vehemently disagree.
I thought that I was careful to point out that there was a wide variety of political opinion at the Grusch hearing.
Admittedly my recollection of the episode could be flawed – if that turns out to be the case then I’ll happily apologize for a mischaracterization.
Brilliant show as always and I love hearing you and Linda go back and forth! Finally finished after three sittings definitely worth waiting for! Thank you for all your hard work and support for all of us all these years thank you
You and Linda are both magnificent beings ~ it has been an honor and a joy to follow you since Dreamland began, and prior to it. Thank you for the myriad gifts shared by you and Anne, Linda, and all your exceptional guests.