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CHRISTMAS SPECIAL: Jim Semivan and Leslie Kean on Contact and the Future of Disclosure

Jim Semivan and Leslie Kean share their deep knowledge about the close encounter experience, contact and official disclosure. Don’t miss two of the BEST interviews with these extraordinary individuals ever done! Deep, penetrating analysis and riveting ideas. Jim goes deeper than ever before into his own close encounter experience, and Leslie, with her profound knowledge of the situation in Washington offers rich and insightful ideas about what might happen next. 

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  1. Disclosure step #1: NASA stop lying: MARS is a living alien biological environment!!! NASA: Tell us all (everything) you know about the obvious truth of this statement in a very public and widespread presentation, with scientific presentation of the evidence, especially if the ancient seas held more that bacteria like organisms (please).

    –: FYI: the science would make this conclusion a no-brainier — So let us get the planetary educational level up to this step 1 and open to ponder the logical conclusion that the Milky Way is teaming with (some level) of biological life (alien biology):

    AI Summary of the Science: Ordered by the Biological Complexity of ET organic chemistry:

    Tier * Examples (Representative) * Context

    I. Simple organics * CO, formaldehyde, methanol, HCN * Interstellar clouds, comets
    II. Prebiotic precursors * PAHs, glycolaldehyde, ethanolamine * Interstellar, comets, meteorites
    III. Fundamental life building blocks * Amino acids, sugars, HMT * Meteorites, asteroid samples
    IV. Genetic molecules * Nucleobases * Asteroid Bennu samples
    V. Polymeric/Protein-like Hemoglycin/hemolithin * (debated) * Meteorites

    Notes on Scientific Confirmation
    • The detection of amino acids and nucleobases in Bennu samples is among the most robust recent confirmations for extraterrestrial sources of complex organics, with minimized terrestrial contamination owing to sample return integrity. (Astrobiology)
    • Many compounds (e.g., >200 different organic molecules) have been found in interstellar clouds, illustrating that organic chemistry is widespread well before planet formation. (Frontiers)
    • Meteorites like Murchison have yielded thousands of distinct organic compositions, including both common and rare amino acids, sugars, and other functional groups. (Wikipedia)

  2. Well now, that was an eye opener. Absolutely terrific show and yes, one of the best in years.

    I ran a steaming hot bath yesterday afternoon, infused it with lots of Radox bath salts and decided to lay back and listen to this year’s Christmas show.

    As the relaxing bath salts worked their magic, I slowly began to slip off into an extremely pleasant doze, then I suddenly heard Jim mention black armor and I almost sat upright in the bath, both eyes like saucers..

    It was some years ago but I’ve seen exactly the same thing but it wasn’t strange looking non-humans wearing it, far from it. If I recall I was driving on a motorway here in the UK and I was very very tired. Dog tired in fact. So tired that it was dangerous if I’m to be honest. I don’t think it was long after what I’m about to tell you that I pulled over to take a nap.

    As I drove along I noticed a woman sitting in the passenger seat next to me. I was driving alone just to be clear about that, but there was this young woman sat there staring straight ahead. All of this happened in a split second but I can remember the details all these years later just like it was yesterday. She was intently staring ahead concentrating and she was wearing body armour but it wasn’t like Jim described.

    Her armour resembled the sort of body armour the police wear in a riot. She had armoured strips on her arms and something on her chest but I don’t remember anything on her legs. The armour was black like Kevlar strips or something. This looked like a normal human woman so go figure?

    What Jim then said next about Bidendum also perked my attention like 50,000 volts. 30 years ago this word came into my head and I couldn’t shake it and it was Bidendum! As I moved forward in life I moved to the London area and began working daily in and around London and lo and behold there in Kensington was this huge old garage turned into a restaurant with Bidendum slapped on the front in huge letters with the big Michelin Man!

    Here I am 30 plus years later hearing bits and bobs of this all coming together and it doesn’t make complete sense but it’s still an interesting and daunting synchronicity.

    I personally feel that woman sitting in the Passenger Seat was a guardian angel or spirit guide, bless her. I think they take chances coming into this denser realm.. maybe the armor is to protect them or maybe it’s a symbolic representation of the risks they take, I don’t know. I do know that I love them very much and I’m very grateful for their guidance. God bless all of them.

    One last observation, at least I think it’s an observation, didn’t the Knights Templar revere Knights with black armor or have carvings made involving black Knights with black armor? Maybe someone can take that point further than I can but I seem to recall black armoured Knights being a thing with the Templars?

    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year everyone. Blessed Be.

    1. I have described before in the comment section of one of Jeremy Veani’s episodes, my experience with a being in black platelet armour. I was utterly terrified. It was stood with it’s back to the window on a wide window ledge, an arm’s stretch from me whilst I lay in bed. It was a really stocky thing, about two feet tall, with really dark grey skin. The body armour was made of jet black rectangular plates (around 1 x 2 inches). Painted on its chest was a blue, red and yellow bullseye archery-like target. I knew why it was there – as a distraction (part of another story) – but it had the most hateful aura oozing from every part of its being, whilst it stared directly at me. Somehow, I knew in that moment, that although this thing clearly had emotions, it did not have a soul…which would have made my resolution to kick its lights out (had it made a move towards me) that bit easier.

  3. I have just started listening to the first part of the show. From personal experience, I believe if this is presented from the beginning of a child’s life, there is no fear. When I was about eight years old, my father came home from his night shift job and told us about the UFO he had seen. This would’ve been around the mid 50s. He wasn’t afraid he was in awe. I still remember the expression on his face when he said it was a brilliant blue, his favorite color. I was never afraid and I’ve always believed. However, I didn’t see anything myself until January 1 at 1 AM on 2011 (note all the ones). It was a triangulation of orange UFOs that just simply disappear disappeared after a short while. I have had some very odd things that have happened in my life that are totally unexplained, and I just chock it up to our lack of knowledge of our existence.
    Nothing scares me it just makes me more curious. In recent years, I have said that I occupy a biologically female human body, but I identify as an energy field. I think you will find that many people will not go into ontological shock. I have seen it in a workplace 30 years ago. I was surprised at the time about how casual everyone was about the unexplained. There was no fear..

  4. My thoughts after listening to half of this episode. I appreciate Jim Semivan’s perspective and honesty. I believe he is a good man and I am grateful for his service.
    There is however a theme I’ve been tracking.
    I find it so interesting that people that have the benefit of security clearances or receive briefings, that move in powerful circles that validate their experiences, feel that the rest of us might find “the truth”, too shocking.
    I truly mean no disrespect, but for me the ontological shock would have been mitigated by real discourse and a level of openness that allowed me to explore my experiences without feeling marginalized or crazy. I’m betting that Chris Bledsoe or you Whitley, might have said the same when your experiences began.
    Emerging from these experiences in the darker days of the truth embargo, was shattering, and the negative reactions and naysaying that was seeded into our collective psyches, unconscionable.
    The new reality we had to adjust to, on our own, under those conditions was more destructive than the actual experiences themselves. At least with the visitors I came to realize they truly perceived reality differently. I wish I could work out a reason that my fellow human beings, especially those in power, abdicated their humanity.
    Who exactly is being saved because I suspect that an ever growing number of the population is being affected. I’m going to say the quiet part out loud now, what’s really happening is we’re all being forced to find our own way through this wilderness while those that should and could help, insist that the hard road is of our own making.
    Personally, I’m tired of the rabbit holes and endless denials. I don’t expect any answers but the situation as it stands is shameful.

    1. Thank you SZ for articulating something that’s been gnawing at me as well… that “we” the “public” can’t handle what the “power brokers” know so they are “protecting us”. Honestly, the ones who “know” & keep it from us are not a category of folks I would simply describe as our “benevolent protectors”. Of course, these are just my speculations based on actions I do see in this world of war after war…
      I DO so appreciate Whitley’s commitment to his calling and these wonderful interviews. So grateful. ✨

  5. Excellent interviews! Orbs? I’ve got stories, and yes, one of them was green.

    We should keep up with what is going on,and understand that information is being rolled out gradually. David Grusch, Lue Elizondo, Trump rolling out the ‘Space Force’ in his first term, congressional hearings, and the most recent Executive Order, ‘Ensuring American Space Superiority’ on December 18th. Where did that come from, and why isn’t it in the news? This particular administration is a problem, and fear is already being used as a tool to control. THAT is my biggest concern. I feel that may have been what Leslie Kean was addressing, while trying to keep politics out of it, but acknowledging the president may or may not disclose unless it was in his own best interests. I tend to be in agreement with her.

    Executive Order December 18, 2025
    ENSURING AMERICAN SPACE SUPERIORITY

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/12/ensuring-american-space-superiority/

    1. Hmm. The “Space Superiority” order sounds more sensible than I would have expected from this regime, though it still seems to emphasize war and commercial gain. Obviously T did not write it, I wonder who did. Yes, where did it come from? And interesting that it didn’t make the news– but there is such an avalanche of garbage falling on us from DC every day, it’s easy for significant news to get lost.

      It does look like information is being rolled out gradually, and I thinking that is working– although some folk are still oblivious or totally unwilling to look at the evidence, a great many of us are getting more and more used to thinking that Someone else is here and I think a lot of people are just seeing that as normal now.

      Absolutely the pres doesn’t do anything unless he thinks it will advance his own interests.

      We sure aren’t talking Starfleet here….

  8. Hello,
    I am sorry to be posting this issue here, but I have emailed your contact/support link twice now about my account problem and have not received any response or assistance. I am unable to listen or watch any of the subscriber content, even after I updated my credit card information. I keep getting an error message every time I log in, with a pink box that says, “You have a problem with one or more of your subscriptions ……” And I have updated my credit card several times, and it said the update was successful. However, I am still unable to access the subscriber content.
    It looks like my credit card was charged on December 3rd.
    I have been a subscriber for many years and always opt for the automatic renewal.
    I would greatly appreciate any help.
    Happy Holiday,
    Cadence Z., Spring Lake MI

    1. I’ve forwarded your message on to Nikki. Apparently, sometimes emails can get stuck in the Spam filter. I’m not sure why, as I would’ve thought they could set up a whitelist that contains subscriber email addresses.

    2. Happened to a couple of us in Aug-Sept and if not for Sherbet’s intervention, we may have still been stuck in limbo. It’s time this issue gets solved. Who knows how many are canceling subscriptions out of frustration?

    4. Hi Cadence, Whitley has responded to my second email. Apparently Nikki is not seeing any of these support emails but will get the / your issue fixed. All the best 🙂

  9. I’m grateful you mentioned Chris Bledsoe’s Easter prediction. It would be great if something noteworthy happened at that time; but I’m uneasy that Chris ties it in with Regulus and the gaze of the Sphinx — and my impression is that that alignment happens in September, not April.

    1. Yes, as far as I can gather the astronomical alignment of Regulus being “in the gaze of the Sphinx” will be in early September 2026. The prediction makes it sound like this a singular event but the truth is, it happens every year around the same time (as the precession of the Equinoxes only shifts that alignment from year to year by a miniscule amount). Any mentions of an Easter prediction seem to be related to symbolic links between Regulus being known as the ‘King Star’ and resurrection / rebirth, rather than more precise astronomical measurements / locations.

      Take it all with a pinch of salt. As Whitley says, hopefully Chris Bledsoe’s credibility will recover from the prediction lambasting that is sure to follow these dates, when very likely, nothing noteworthy actually happens related to “a shift in the knowledge of Humanity”.

      It is tempting to link this to the recent Doppler tomography scans of the Khafre Pyramid by Filippo Biondi…but if Zahi Hawass has anything to do with it, he won’t get anywhere near the site on the ground to do any shaft clearing and additional, more detailed studies.

  10. Thank you Whitley for the back to back super interesting interviews. I’m a big Leslie Kean fan. I’ve only heard Jim Semivan suggest he had an experience so appreciate hearing from him about it. I have question. You and Leslie were wondering about disclosure and what it will take to get the attention of an ordinary person. You were considering what it would take and said “…A video on a street corner in a public space where NHI and a human being are interacting. I would assume it would mean that numerous people were witness to it….In other words it was in public not at night, in someone’s bedroom, cause there’s zillions of videos of that sort of kind…. ” and I was thinking, well where are these zillions of videos that you refer to? I’ve never seen a single one. And are you saying that there are videos that are real of someone’s NHI bedroom experience?
    I’m an ordinary person. I want to believe because I’ve listened to and met many people with experiences. I believe them. And yet, personally, seeing is believing. I keep hearing well known folks in the ufo space tell listeners they’ve seen incredible videos. I am super frustrated that people like Lue Elizondo say “If you have seen the videos I saw with AATIP. You like me would know, 100% without a shadow of a doubt that that we are not dealing with human technology here.“ Very annoying that these claims are dangled in front of people who sincerely want to understand what is going on, and yet we are expected to trust words when seeing could actually shift perspective. Any thoughts you have I would love to hear. I appreciate you Whitley.

  11. In addition to the fireworks, and glasses, something else along these lines happened in the Leslie interview that I feel in my heart is true:

    Towards the waning minutes of the interview, notice over Leslie’s right shoulder a slowly building presence of sunlight reflecting off of the coffee table that peaks in its expression as the interview peaks in its expression of love and starts its conclusion.

    At that point the reflection of light has grown so intense it appears almost as an independently free-standing orb of white light with a ray diffracting onto Leslie.

    The light slowly growing reminded me of that remarkable Aug. 22, 2025 Dreamland with Mark Sims where Whitley’s head became slowly engulfed in growing anomalous white light. That white light peaked in its expression as Whitley was describing the last meeting between himself and someone between the worlds he used to meditate with at his cabin. On that last night they revealed themselves to be the “most loveliest” brilliant white light. It was an orb that had rays that pricked Whitley’s skin and when they did he tasted the essence of another human being.

    We are so blind to ignore the poetry of meaning contained within so much paranormal phenomenon.

    The relentless internal temptation of identity-view makes us want to believe in ownership. I give myself credit in my imagination: a temporary comfort is felt, another gets blame in my imagination: a temporary comfort is felt. The reliable ease of the highs of this addiction, and a culture’s celebration of it, makes us turn away from seeing a world where our environment as well as our selves maybe a seamless water color painting by someone else’s hand.

    Synchronicity is maybe the most common paranormal phenomenon for good reason.

    As I watched that white light grow over Leslie’s shoulder and hearing each of you utter your apparently separated independent words from each other, I felt something like witnessing God acting cute, quaint, lost, curious, confused in expressing itself as different voices of people seeing themselves as lonesomely detached.

    God – a presence outside of time and space could be even “Whitley” (who loves practical jokes) and Leslie teamed up as future dead coming back to direct our attention to a more divinely whole that animates all.

    I know Whitley has his sensing exercise. But for something else for others to try: when meditating in concentration think of it as building an expression of love so intimate and great for life and God that you are willing to practice utter and complete devotion to the simplest of perceived sensation. Completely free of all wanting. Entire worlds are determined to live or die by one’s willingness to put fullest attention on a second of life. If one struggles; all the better for none of this should ever be about someone getting somewhere. One doesn’t meditate for the benefit of self, one meditates for the benefit of God. The sacrifice of self in itself brings goodness upon goodness.

    To all: Have a Happy New Year

    Love,
    Mark

    P.S.

    I was about to delete this comment without posting, because I don’t know how to balance writing opinions and not staking some seed of identity within them. And so I personally err on the side of humbly respecting unseen danger in opinion.

    But just at that moment of leaning towards closing this window out: I looked outside my window and saw a lost dog.

    I’ve lived in my house for 17 years and don’t think I’ve ever seen a lost dog here. But in this moment I did.

    It was a beautiful large dog that had black long-haired fur with patches of brown.

    I recognized the synchronicity of Whitley and Anne sharing between themselves the idea of God as a dog and this being the kind of synchronistic expression of animation of all by God I was trying to express in the comment I just wrote.

    I wondered, “What do I do?”

    It was 11°F and the sun was setting. Dangerous conditions for the dog. This made me I realize I had to act on its behalf (God’s behalf?) ..that for its sake I could not be passive. I also realized it being NYE: there was no animal control/higher authority to potentially help bail me or the situation out.

    I went out to hopefully see a number on its collar or gather it to come inside.The dog seemed friendly, it allowed me to pet it just for a second once, but it kept evading me. I spent most of the time looking at the dog (God?) wondering how to close the gap.

    After about 5-10 minutes eventually its owner came from about a block down the street yelling, while smiling in relief that he had found it. I was glad.

    I wished the man a Happy New Year.

    The confusion, excitement, anxiety, the wondrous sense of something deeper afoot I can’t prove, ..with the sun setting on the year’s last day, all of this, in itself could be a poem in ode to life.

    2. Mark, thank you for not deleting this post and your story of the beautiful dog. The older I get, the more life seems like a metaphor with Something or Someone trying to contact us, teach us and join with each of us. Happy and Blessed New Year to all!

  12. Mark…I was reluctant to talk about it, but I saw several, fairly large balls of light along with fireworks around Leslie. I thought I was seeing things, so I was glad when they acknowledged it. I was very strange.

  13. To Whitley’s plea for more subscribers, I am doing my very best to add to the ranks. The challenge is that I simply don’t know many people that might want to be a part of this community. Either they have little to no interest, or, quite frankly, they would be a detriment to the site.

    That being said, I did get a good friend of mine to commit to at least a year here. Hope springs eternal.

  14. WHY TRUMP WILL NOT DISCLOSE.
    Here is a little dystopia for the new year. Suppose you are one of the “keepers of the secrets” from the legacy program, and you want to convince the president to not disclose anything. One good idea would be to convince him that it is in his own financial interest to keep his mouth shut. It’s often said that one of reasons why the insiders are against disclosure is the financial interests of private contractors involved in the crash retrieval / reverse engineering program, and the murky legal waters in which the program is operating. So let’s give Trump a stake in the program! Ross Coulthart had a recent show on back engineering efforts in Soviet times, and according to the guest the Soviets determined that some of the crafts use nuclear fusion as a power source. Why would this have anything to do with Trump? Well, Trump Media is now merging with a nuclear fusion startup! Strange move for a social media company. I am not making this up:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/business/trump-media-tae-technologies-fusion-power-deal.html
    This could be a brilliant move from the insiders, convincing him that this fusion technology is back engineered from “alien” crafts, that he should invest, and that he should keep hiding the true origin of this technology just to be safe. Whether this tech is really of exotic origin is not that relevant in this story, the point is just that Trump has to believe it.
    Perhaps more likely, this could just be my imagination running wild. But who knows, since we live in a crazy world perhaps we need to have crazy thoughts to get certain things right.

    1. T Media merging with a fusion company may not be so strange when you figure it’s likely yet another way to funnel government (taxpayers’) cash into private hands– the hands of T and his family. Like you said, he just has to believe the story, whether about alien tech or something else, and making him believe wild stuff doesn’t seem to be very hard. (Not that it couldn’t be true!)

      And the usual story of fusion is that it’s always just 5 or 10 or 20 years from giving us all the clean energy we could wish for and saving the world. Kind of like T’s health care and infrastructure plans will always come out in 2 weeks.

      T’s family is already heavily invested in crypto, and the social media stuff keeps losing money, so fusion may just be the next logical scam.

  15. I was so sorry to hear that Leslie Kean had been widowed. We are in a club that’s way too large. Sending hugs to her and to Whitley. As he says, even though he is aware that Ann is very much alive in another form, living without her physical presence makes every day painful. I totally understand. Wish I did not know what that’s like.

  16. After listening to these interviews, I went off to look for “Age of Disclosure,” but didn’t quite want to fork over the $14.99 to rent it (it has already come down to $9.99).

    Meanwhile I took in a similar older documentary, James Fox’s “The Program,” and his “Moment of Contact” which covers the incident in Varginha, Brazil in 1996 ($3.99 to rent that one).
    I can recommend both. Even if you know a lot about the subject matter, not a waste of time.

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