Brit Elders was in business in London when she heard about the astonishing case of a Swiss farmer who was taking vivid color pictures of UFOs. She and her husband Lee ended up researching the case exhaustively, spending many months with Billy Meier, and came away convinced. Here, she tells Whitley the in-depth story of just why, and what the contact meant both to Billy and to the rest of us. Whitley discusses a contact of his own with a Nordic, who left a chilling warning about the grays. This is Dreamland at its deepest and its best!
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Wonderful show! Thank you both. Peace and blessings.
I’m pretty sure Billy Meier said in a German interview that the Ufo models were presents from local school children who made them years after the photos were taken.
The Investigative team had the first models made. We did give them to Billy when we finished our analysis. We needed them to compare the 35mm film we took of the models to the 35mm film Billy had taken.
I recall reading Billy’s account 25 yrs ago and I was on the fence about it. However, over the years I’ve gravitated toward believing his account as it incorporates the aspect of contact wherein ‘they decide to show themselves’ to an individual for reasons best known to them.
Having seen a disc fold in half in a clear sky then disappear myself, I still feel that it was a living being revealing itself at a time of great change for me. A colleague also witnessed the disc, though he described it as turning into a triangle before disappearing.
Billy’s account with Semjase always stuck with me and the female aspect resonates a great deal. Overall an enjoyable interview and I’d encourage people to revisit the Billy Meier story as it offers a great deal.
Peace.
I totally agree about the responsibility being on the individual. That’s why I’ve been interested in science and the spiritual most of my life. The schools, my family, and religion never gave me the information or the answers that I craved— and the need to know my soul as well. We should all be the libraries that hold and pass on important information for others, our children, grandchildren, and those who are also seekers. We don’t need to reach a congregation, we but we have to begin one person at a time and allow it to grow into a congregation of wisdom for our future. Sounds easy, right? 🙂
It’s not meant to be easy, so it’s not for the lazy, disinterested, majority that is humanity, but we should ‘be’ our truth anyway, and do what we can without developing ‘savior’ complexes. As has been said,”You must be the change you wish to see in the world.”
Brit Elders offered nourishing food for thought in this talk…and we should all be glad that she and her husband had the curiosity to visit Billy Meier in Switzerland.
Hear hear!
Yes Cosmic, we take steps forward and make choices.
Strangely, we, from time to time, are quietly nudged into choices we feel that are the right thing to do at that time. I laugh at so many of my own choices.
The shorts that were too tight to wear in public, necessitating a wheelchair. Also, the viagra tablets mixed with cayun pepper that promised both weight loss and Steve Austin-like raw-steel machismo.
Well, I’m very, very sorry to say that all I personally experienced was hearing laughter from my girlfriend at that time. I’d rather not dwell on this, in fact, why have I even mentioned it?
I mentioned it because we go with the flow and we move on, freer from entropy, choosing to reach above density, though that alchemy is a diverse language of symbolism that we grow into over many, many years of angst. Donnie Darko!!
I am so blessed to be a loose member of this free collective. I love you all and I love your individualism. No one here is cookie cutter material.
Peace.
Well, both Viagra and cayenne pepper open the arteries, so the combination wasn’t totally crazy!
I echo your sentiments about being blessed to have the opportunity to interact with Whitley and this group. Glad you’re here.
My quibble with the Pleiadian story is this: the Pleiades are VERY young stars, much younger than our own sun. I think I’ve read they are only a few million years old. I find it hard to believe an advanced civilization could have formed there yet.
Is this addressed anywhere in the accounts?
Maybe they were also seeded
If you mean on planets in the Pleiades, if there are any, they would be even younger than the stars and would be in a very primordial state and unable to support any life at all.
I don’t mean to be argumentative, I sincerely want to know how this could work. I want this to be true.
Multidimensional, beyond our grasp
She talked about terraforming or seeding a new planet for their residence. It’s all about consciousness and being able to move material matter. Think quantum mechanics on a much deeper understanding than where we are in our first baby stages into the material.
As far as I can ascertain, although Billy Meier initially described them as coming from the Pleiades, Semjase clarified that they actually come from a different dimension, or space-time configuration and not from the Pleiades directly. Apparently the reasons for this shift are discussed in detail in the FIGU (Freie Interessengemeinschaft für Grenz- und Geisteswissenschaften und Ufologiestudien) website, which is the organisation founded by Billy Meier.
Apparently these revelations are specifally discussed in the ‘Semjase Contact Notes’, somewhere around Contact Report 31 to 39…but I am still trying to track down exactly which one…
https://archive.org/details/wendellestevensmessagefromthepleiades1/Wendelle-Stevens-MESSAGE-FROM-THE-PLEIADES-1
https://archive.org/details/wendellestevensmessagefromthepleiades1/Wendelle-Stevens-UFOCONTACT-FROM-THE-PLEIADES-2
https://archive.org/details/wendellestevensmessagefromthepleiades1/Wendelle-Stevens-MESSAGE-FROM-THE-PLEIADES-3
Yes, Obviously the label Pleiades, which is a a cluster containing hundreds of stars, is not really a valid location. Indeed it is a place where stars are born, so perhaps it is a poetic saying that we come from a galactic womb.
Pleiades is one of the first things a child learns to recognize because it looks different, therefore all cultures have myths about it.
My issue is I am not hearing any profound wisdom, similar to the phrases Whitley has reported of the visitors. With the claimed amount of contact and the description of it happening in ordinary awareness, there should be several very profound offerings of wisdom.
Very few reports include ordinary awareness when in teh presence of advanced beings. Even shamans and gurus deeply affect people and move them into an altered state.
I would need a profound revelation from the Pleiadians to accept such a story. I looked into this years ago and am not convinced it is worth my time to revisit it.
Very true. The Pleiades are a very young system. However, the Pleiadians never claimed to originate in that system. They told Meier that they had destroyed their planet and found a planet in the Pleiades that they could “engineer” to support life.
I’m curious and confused about the analysis of the metal. First, regarding a crystalline layer in between layers of metal– solid metal already has a crystalline structure, so I assume what Brit meant was that there was a non-metallic layer.
Wondering what she meant by cold fusion of the metal. Possibly cold welding? When I tried to look up cold fusion in relation to metal manufacturing, what I found was a 3D printing process. It doesn’t sound like that was what was meant-?
I agree, that part confused me and made no sense. If the actual analysis exists, can it be posted to the message board area.
What the metallurgists told us was that the metal was separated by pure crystalline structure.
Cold fusion requires little to no heat. According to the scientists, it was a process that we couldn’t achieve back in the 70s. Metals were heated and poured into form back then.
The detailed analysis is much too much to go into here but it is in both the book and the documentary.
Yes, “cold welding” is probably what was meant, with the atoms and / or molecules being attached to each other without the use of a heat source.
Elene, cold fusion is a type of nuclear reaction that happens at normal, room temperatures (At least, here on Earth). It’s still mainly hypothetical. No surprise there. In the context of the talk involving supposedly advanced beings, there’s probably more complexity to it than we can even grasp, I would think.
Fripperton, you make a valid point in regards to age of the Pleiades cluster. However, I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest some out-of-the-box thinking in regards to the nature of time, in order to make sense of this. Traveling through time, may come in to play, but we don’t know, do we? Interstellar space travel is all about time, however. (The movie, ‘Interstellar’ is great at demonstrating this!) The Pleiadians could be visiting us from the future. If they get here as described by Brit, that is a possibility, plus she used the Lakota expression, “All are related ” (“Mitakuye Oyasin”). So, there may be even more to ‘who’ the Pleiadians are in relation to us.
I have considered this as well and you might be absolutely correct.
It makes me believe the theory that history cannot be altered is correct because with all the different alien factions supposedly at war with each other, if they are from the future why hasn’t one of the factions tried to “erase” them from the timeline?
They would not have to erase anything…If they knew how to branch off into a new timeline.
I know what cold fusion is (or is supposed to be, if it is ever shown to be possible). However, they were talking about metallurgy. I have to think that Brit simply misspoke and she meant cold welding or something like it. It’s also not correct that metal had to be poured until recently, as the only way of manufacturing metal products– it has also been forged for thousands of years.
This doesn’t negate the overall message, but when we are trying to talk about scientific aspects, I think we need to be as accurate as possible.
Considering that ‘cold fusion’ is still controversial and that it may not be possible, we don’t know what any real possibilities may be. I don’t know what the truth on this is, but metallurgy itself is more complex than most people know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy
If you are familiar with the layered bismuth/magnesium/zinc sample from the metal “skin” from an alleged alien craft (I believe Whitley has a sample). it seems to involve currently unknown technology too. It may be that most of this simply of out range of current knowledge.
You are right about forging—it’s ancient. The main point is that these samples are anomalies. I wish there was a way to get mainstream science to take them seriously and seek to know more. That takes real curiosity, and that seems to take a backseat to ‘don’t rock the boat mentality’ that goes back as far as Galileo.
Yes, those metal samples are fascinating, and it’s amazing that Whitley has one! I was going to say that we need to be working on learning everything we can from those samples, but if he’s correct, aerospace corporations have been doing quite a bit of that.
I keep thinking of Diana Pasulka’s former friend Tyler D, who claims to have developed a number of lucrative products using information from the visitors. Whatever one makes of that, something major seems to be going on with visitor-based tech.
Typically metal is heated and formed. Poured may have been a poor choice of words on my part. The Pleiadians told Meier there was no heat applied during the creation of the skin of the craft. It was as they said, a cold synthesis. Unfortunately, Mr. Meier did not ask for clarification of that term. We had to rely on Earthly metallurgists to describe what they saw under the lens of the scanning electron microscope.
Thank you, Brit, that makes it clearer.
I found a very informative movie on Billy Meier today. You can google “UFOTV Presents: The silent revolution of truth.” Made in 2008. It is filled with amazing videos, pictures & interviews from Billy, also the telling of many of his prophecies (of which so many came true). There is a beautiful message behind it all. I highly reccomend it!
Thank you for that! I’m off to look it up now….
Thank you both for such a wonderful program!
Her first name is spelled “Brit” not “Britt” on her website
And Meier is not pronounced “My-AIR.”
https://youtu.be/HJZ0NcnANOo
Great show, great guest, thanks.
Brit Elders and Whitley. For me, this is a WONDERFUL interview. YES, I totally believe we are in constant contact with these entities. PERHAPS they have the ability to emerge into our third dimension from their fourth timeless one. PERHAPS they see our third dimension through the consciousness of space-time? Planet EARTH would look very different, I would think. I copied over a few comments from William Henry’s website/articles. Also, not sure of the tribe, but thinking it might have been the Hopi that stated, before the Pleiades their ancestors were in the constellation of LYRA as Brit Elders says.
Copied over from William Henry:
“Recently, I was re-reading Mysteries of the Bride Chamber: The Initiation of Jesus and the Temple of Solomon (2007) by Victoria LePage. She presents Jesus as a high initiate of an ancient Judaic mystery school in Egypt. I have traced the origins of this mystery school to the society of Starwalkers who were known in the ancient world from Egypt to the British Isles to Greece and who originated in the star fields of Orion and the Pleiades. Their purpose is to raise humanity to a higher level of divine consciousness and to link us with these and other star systems.”
….Ephesians 6:14 – Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth… “Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?” — Job 38:31……
It seems like humans always mention the Pleiades and Orion more prominently than any other star formations. And the two are closely linked in mythology. Here’s some info about that:
https://www.space.com/pleiades.html
We used to hear a lot about Sirius in relation to ETs/UAPs. It seems like that hasn’t been happening lately. Maybe I’ve just missed it?
When it comes to beings from other worlds, it makes sense that focus might turn to Orion and the Pleiades( In Japan ‘Subaru’🙂) because they are so prominent the night sky. So, ‘they’ may be using those constellations for our benefit in the general direction they are from in relation to Earth, and they can be seen just about anywhere in the world.
Brit did say that the ‘Pleiadians’ originated somewhere else, in the direction of the constellation of Lyra, which is also visible in both hemispheres. This struck me as interesting in light of the fact that in the movie, ‘Contact’, Ellie Arroway gets ‘contact’ through signals received from the star Vega in Lyra.
Sirius is of note in regards to the Dogon people of West Africa, and is also tied to their spiritual beliefs, and their
connections to beings from Sirius, the Nommo. It’s really fascinating stuff. The Dogon knew about Sirius B before anyone else, because it cannot be seen with the naked eye, but they knew about it. It was confirmed with the advent of telescopes, and it is the much smaller companion to Sirius A. I don’t know why everyone has backed off on Sirius. But I’m betting that culture is a factor, which is too bad. Lard Scranton has written extensively about the Dogon.
There are lots of stars, many constellations visible here on Earth so I do wonder about cultural factors with them too. Prominent, easily recognized stars and constellations seem to dominate the pantheon of beings and where they are from.
Wow, I had no idea it was Subaru!
My Orion experience described below had that “in the direction of” sense, that if we look toward Orion the beings are out there somewhere in that direction but not necessarily connected to any of the stars of the Orion constellation. So the idea that the Pleiadians come from somewhere in the direction of Lyra makes sense to me, and similarly they may be from somewhere in the direction of the Pleiades. That’s about the best I can do with this.
Nice talking with you, by the way!
Likewise!
A bright day to you Mr. Strieber. 💥
You have helped so many experiencers go beyond the usual knots and bolts that others were fixated on. Your great karma is guaranteed! 🌻
No one else has had the stamina to do what you do for so long. No matter what you decide, please keep yourself in the public eye. You will always have an audience in any kind of media, because you are a treasure.
I had a lucid dream with you years ago. You have to forgive me If I have already told it here. I am an old 69-year -old Cuban lady, and my memory is not the best.
We were on another planet and you were making a speech. I lived on that planet and was your assistant. You were a lecturer, felt like an astronomer? Everyone wanted to speak to you. Your appearance was slightly different. The face more angular, and age about 30. You were an alien to that planet. However, somehow I knew that you were not from planet earth either. go figure!
I write about it now because i want you to realize how much you are appreciated, not just on this planet, but possibly in many others. You are one pioneer and courageous dude. 🤠 After all, who walked into the woods into that dark unknown. Who does that?
When i finished this podcast, I remembered a story, which has been written different ways. Its about the man that after greatly helping his village, comes back to visit. He is expecting a brass band and acclamation and is bitterly disappointed. However, A voice comes to him and says ” Why do you mind? This is not your kingdom, my son.”
Please, dont be wary if a few idiots don’t approve , accept, or invite you to their dreary soirees. 🤣 Who cares? We all know that you are a treasure. You should too.
I truly believe that the Akashic records is a place. Can you imagine how richer the Akashic records are because of you? I mention this because I had a vision many years ago of a small ball of light in front of a great book shelf. It seemed to be browsing for a book. At the time I thought it was a the Library of Alexandria. But I just saw a youtube video of a lady with same vision. She was at the Akashic records.
Anyway, I’m sorry for being a little bit personal here, but you have helped me and so many others through their troubled times with your work.
My daughter passed away years ago. Your podcast and everyone at Unknown country was very helpful at that time. I did not feel alone.
So no talk about two years taking flight into the next unknown just yet. After all, It’s not fair you leaving us behind like that. You have brought us this far. We all want to leave too, but unfortunately, still have some help to give, whether we want to or not! 🤣 Enough ranting for today.
You are not alone. Blessings!!
Recommend:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEsZ_sm9VaY
This definitely makes me want to learn more about Billy Meier. I’ve now got a sample of the Kindle version of Brit’s 45th anniversary edition to start out with. How wonderful that she and her husband stuck with this person and this story for so long and worked on it so thoroughly. There’s a gentleness and kindness about this interview that I really appreciated.
One of the many questions this brings up for me is how much the nature of these long-term, persistent manifestations have to do with the nature of the individual who is perceiving them
I’ve never known what to think of the idea of someone being “from the Pleiades.” In addition to the age of the cluster, as Mr_Fripperton pointed out, being only on the order of 150 million years, it contains over 1000 stars. So where would these people be from, in that vast expanse?
(As folks have discussed here, the problem of the stars being so young could be dealt with by figuring that these visitors are from the future or from some other reality.)
And then, there’s the warning so often given by Whitley and others, that we can’t necessarily believe anything the visitors tell us about themselves.
Back in 2009, I had an experience that may shed a little light on this. I had taken some classes with Betsy Morgan Coffman, who channels a multiple entity that calls itself/themselves Orion. (I’ve had a little bit of contact with this entity and I accept its reality, whatever that means.)
I was studying with my psychic mentor, Mendy Lou Blackburn, and one day we were talking about Orion, and this happened:
“So I held the intention of looking at Orion, and I began to have quite a vivid vision. First, against an image of space with stars, there was a huge burst of white light coming through what looked like a wormhole in a science-fiction movie. I could see a round tunnel behind it, and on the other side, an equally huge, bright mass of light. This seemed to describe where Orion was coming from.
“Then I felt myself flying or being pulled through the hole, and found myself on the other side, in the other universe. I had only had the intention of looking at all this, but suddenly it was like actually being there, though I was still quite aware of the usual room around me. I could feel tingling, like little sparks, and warmth all over my body. As I more or less adjusted to my surroundings, I began to see the sparks as small, twinkling points of light all around me. Somehow the points of light seemed excited and happy, as if they were glad I was there. It felt like the entire space was filled with love and joy—and fun, a sense of lightness, as if I had walked into some wonderful celebration. Mendy was observing all this, and she could see the same little lights and feel the sensation of love. There was absolutely no seriousness or gravity about any of this.
“I asked the sparkles, which seemed to be conscious beings, what they wanted to tell me. I never received much in the way of imagery, and there were no words, but I felt pressure on my third eye. I got to wondering just what sort of beings the sparkles were, and it occurred to me to ask how they would perceive themselves from the perspective of their own lives in their own universe. In response, I was shown an image of myself, which I took as meaning that their nature was similar to my own. Mendy’s impression was that they were indeed similar to us, but further along in their evolution. I don’t know. I can only say that they were an awful lot of fun and I liked them a lot.
“And then I was back in the room and in my normal consciousness.”
I later spoke with others who had perceived these “intelligent sparkles.” The relevant point for us here being that although we perceived them as sparkles, in their own environment they perceive themselves as humanoid. I don’t know what to make of any of this but I submit it for your consideration.
https://elenedom.wordpress.com/2010/03/17/orions-net/
Excellent, Elene!
I’ve never seen sparkles, but I have seen lots of balls of light, orbs. And I’ve sensed them and ‘heard’ them as well.
They are conscious, but I’m not sure what they are, although I feel they have the signatures of Earth. In 2006, we visited Bandelier Monument in New Mexico. On the drive there that morning, I could here them saying, “She’s coming! She’s on her way!”, with a feeling of happiness. When you get to Bandelier, you have to climb up to the Alcove House. In 2006, you could climb into the kiva there, but it is no longer allowed. Inside the kiva, I could feel myself surrounded by them. I gave my family instructions to start taking pictures while in the kiva. The result were pictures of me surrounded by orbs! It was cool…and joyous!
https://www.nps.gov/band/planyourvisit/alcove-house.htm
I did a response on this yesterday, Elene, but apparently it’s stuck in the spam filter.
Oh no! I can’t imagine life without unknown country!!! Nooooooo!
Seriously! We want this to go on and on!
Whitley, I wonder if, rather than mentioning that you don’t have enough subscribers, it might possibly entice people if you make much of how successful and vibrant this site and community is? Like really emphasize how great it is rather than the struggle to get subscribers? Just a thought.
Thank you for this lovely interview. Feeds my heart. So grateful. 🪬💖
During the show, Whitley mentioned that a sample belonging to Art Bell had anomalous isotopic ratios.
But Oak Ridge national lab recently analyzed a sample coming from a purported UFO, and said that isotopic ratios were perfectly normal. Anyone knows if the sample analyzed at ORNL has the same origin as the sample mentioned by Whitley? Unfortunately, it’s not clear that ORNL can be trusted on this issue anyway (the fact that the former AARO director now works there is a little worrisome…).
I don’t think that anything any part of the defense establishment says about this subject is to be trusted. As to where samples being tested at Oak Ridge came from, who knows?
The day unknowncountry closes will be a sad day. I subscribe and try to spread the word. I wish I could do more.