In this episode, guest host Kelly Chase dives into the deep end of the conversation around consciousness and contact experiences with Dr. Michael P. Masters. Michael Masters is a professor of Biological Anthropology at Montana Tech. He is also the author of what are widely considered to be two of the defining books on the Extratempestrial Hypothesis, Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon and The Extratempestrial Model. And last year he also published a fiction book on the topic entitled Revelation: The Future Human Past.
In this wide-ranging conversation Dr. Masters talks about the childhood experiences that inform his work today, the high strangeness involved in doing work in the field of ufology, what he has learned from his own anomalous contact experiences, and much more.
Note from Kelly:
Through the course of this interview, Mike and Kelly referred back several times to an anomalous contact experience that he had at the International UFO Conference in Arizona back in 2022. If you haven’t heard that full story before and are curious to hear more of the details, I’ll be dropping Mike’s full talk from the Inquire Anomalous conference from this last December where he spoke publicly about that event for the first time on my podcast, The UFO Rabbit Hole. A special thanks to Jay Christopher King for making that possible.
However, you definitely don’t need to have heard that talk to follow along with this episode, so don’t let that hold you up. It’s just a fun bonus if you want to hear more.
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Is there going to be a YouTube version available?
Yes did you find it ?
Oh evermind I guess the links weren’t loaded but there now
I do not see any links to listen to the podcast, and it was not available on Spotify.
Yeah the usual links are missing…
Where are the links
Where is the promised link?
Which link? Link to the past? Link between worlds?
The missing link…David Hasselhoff, maybe?
I believe the direct link to ‘The UFO Rabbit Hole Podcast’ in question, is this…
https://uforabbithole.com/podcast/inquire-anomalous-presents-ep-2-dr-michael-p-masters-on-extratempestrials-contact-experiences/
You’re welcome; But to be honest, it really wasn’t that difficult to find.
I appreciate the candid discussion of your experiences. The more we know about this phenomenon and how it intertwines with our consciousness, the better. I do want to express that these are just ideas and making assumptions as to reality could be dangerous. The trickster element was introduced into the podcast. I see this on the range as a harmless teaching tool all the way to a sinister manipulation. I can’t help but think this almost seems like a political movement.
This quote from Joseph Goebbels seems relative to what’s going on, “It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.
Such a wonderful conversation and so much for continue dialing, but I want to bring up ESP. We know scientifically according to Dean Radin that metadata analysis proved humans have various degrees of Telepathy and also that prayer can be shown to be healing statistically. Therefore it would be wise for us to accept and be aware of our true nature. What goes on in our heads, what is us and what is other. Filtering out the echos of media we watch which programs us, we are still left with much to filter. What impact does a co-worker who resents us or a person jealous or angry, etc have. Are our thoughts relating to their telepathic signals. Are we aware enough of our own voice to discriminate and filter out other impacting thoughts, or do we find ourselves suddenly mentally on a defensive? What are we sending to others and how are we affecting them? In my humble opinion it is time to really grasp our interconnected nature and assume responsibility for our thoughts. This is huge and will require great dedication and discipline, but the rewards are vast. In our patience we, as active spirits, may gradually possess our own souls!
I was about to say that the HeartMath Institute has done a lot of research into the way one person’s heart affects others nearby, and send you to their site, but it looks like they are now focusing only on what goes on within the individual:
https://www.heartmath.com/
I know there’s been research on how that angry coworker affects everyone in the room. Researchers have also planted a peaceful, low-key person in offices and observed the effect. I don’t know where to find those studies at the moment but they definitely found that the “vibes” from one person affect others, just as we know from daily life.
The Access Consciousness healing method presumes that a lot of what is bothering us is like listening to a radio that’s on in the background and believing that what we hear is our own thoughts.
There’s a lot of wisdom in your statement: “In my humble opinion it is time to really grasp our interconnected nature and assume responsibility for our thoughts. This is huge and will require great dedication and discipline, but the rewards are vast. In our patience we, as active spirits, may gradually possess our own souls!”
Yes, the Heartmath research shows the close proximity (30 feet or more) of heart beat fields affecting everyone around. But even when we go home and someone sends us thoughts from a distance, there is a part of us that registers it.
I love the radio metaphor. We are living on a planet with a screaming telepathic web continually bombarding us. This might be an excuse for people continually seeking distractions, but that is no help in the long run. Separating the radio from our own creative thoughts is freedom. Sending out good vibes in response to whatever hits us neutralizes the bombardment.
Realizing and accepting what is, is the beginning. I accept that I have a lot of growth potential (a long way to go), but knowing we are all connect (deeper than just telepathically) changes everything.
An enjoyable show. Great conversation. The references to the cozy family feel and connection with like minded people at the conferences made me feel nostalgic for the Lou Farish era of the Ozark Mountain UFO Conference. Chilling at the Lone Star Bar & Grill Ahhh, the good old days.
Carry on. Will definitely be listening to Kelly’s shows again.
Kelly, you are a gift, thank you for this excellent interview. Here is a quote that I go back to, especially when feeling like I am being consumed by society and ALL of their opinions.
“Depend more upon the intuitive forces from within … but learn to listen to that still small voice from within. Edgar Cayce Reading 239-1”
Also, last night while waiting for the weather, my local channel interviewed an Entomologist in regard to the emergence of CICADAS. He said they would sound like UFOs landing. Wait, did I hear him right??? I could not find the interview but did see this. CREEPY SOUND!!!
M. septendecim is the largest of the 17-Year species. Its abdomen has thick orange stripes. It has orange coloring between its eye and wing. Its song sounds like “Wee-Oh”, “Pharaoh” and a group of them are said to sound like a “UFO from a science fiction movie”.
The second you tube for sound.
Female Magicicada septendecim cicada in slow motion (Brood II, New Jersey 2013)
https://www.cicadamania.com/cicadas/magicicada-septendecim-linnaeus-1758-aka-linnaeuss-17-year-cicada/
Magicicada septendecim (Linnaeus, 1758) aka Linnaeus’s 17-Year Cicada – Cicada Mania
If the visitors are humans from the future (extratempestrial), why assume that they all come from a future Earth. Any advanced civilization that can time travel, most likely can also travel to the stars. Future humans may live on several planets on several different time lines. So they may be both extratempestrial and extraterrestrial. Also the Insectoid and Reptilian entities may be just extraterrestrial. This may not be an either or situation.