Disclosure always seems to be just around the corner. Promises of epic announcements come and go. The defense industry uses its stooges in Congress to derail potent bills. A major player makes an obvious mistake in front of the whole world. And one group continues to be ignored by everybody: the experiencers. Chris Bledsoe has said that there will be a major event on Easter Sunday, 2026. Others claim that a huge ship will arrive in 2027 and the world will be made to believe that its occupants are the first ever to arrive here–and the experiencers will be discredited, and their abductions and suffering and extraordinary contact achievements will be buried beneath a false flag.
Whitley Strieber and Kelly Chase are among the best informed members of the close encounter community. Listen as they unpack the lies, the confusion and the secrecy. What’s REALLY going on?
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Good interview but I believe it is all a con job from the US government.
How MANY times have we heard about disclosure ?
From WAY back during the Jimmy Carter years and Steven Spielburg’s Close Encounters of the Third Kind was SUPPOSEDLY preparing for disclosure.
Now in 2026 his new movie is called Disclosure.
It’s been 50 YEARS since Carter and supposed disclosure and instead we get lies and ops like the Blue Chicken 10 years ago and now the lies and half truths of people like Luis Elizondo.
The US government will NEVER have true disclosure any more than the promised files on the JFK murder or Epstein will be released. “Any day now” says the Trump admin.
Same as “any day now” on disclosure.
Yeah right.
I would like to think that the Trump administration has very little if any control over whether and when disclosure may happen. They’re so good at making a mess, though, that I devoutly hope that’s the case. Letting those ham-handed fools take the lead on anything as crucial as this could cause all sorts of trouble.
What is the Blue Chicken?
And what evidence do you have that Luis Elizondo has been lying?
Blue Chicken = Corey Goode operation and lies about 10 years ago on Gaia TV.
Luis Elizondo, yeah a guy who spent his whole career in military intelligence and had a top secret security clearance. With that you can NEVER legally say anything publicly unless you are cleared by higher ups or something is declassified. If you reveal classified items look at what happened to people like Snowden or Manning.
Yet he’s publicly talking about those things, joined TTSA (which was a joke at best and most likely a disinfo OP), left them then there are serious questions if he ever was in the AATIP program as he claimed.
Lots of questions about that guy and I think he’s being allowed to release some real info and the rest is misinfo.
Thanks. I don’t know how I missed the Corey Goode stuff. There was even a Blue Avian on the “Resident Alien” sci-fi comedy series and I didn’t realize that had been a thing.
Yes, that’s very weird about the Elizondo photos and I have no idea what to make of them.
Yet, I don’t know why he would have left his cushy job and thrown his family into sudden poverty if he were not sincere. In general his story has held up, but then there are these vexing issues. Like practically everything else in UAP world, I suppose.
One immediately falls into so many layers of conspiracy theories thinking about him that it becomes impossible to deal with right away. It does seem like at least some of the info is unassailable.
I can’t edit my original comment now or I would.
I understand and I wish I wasn’t so jaded and sceptical about supposed Disclosure and “whistleblowers” but like I said for 50 years since I was a kid we have been told that “Disclosure is right around the corner”.
Remember that Elizondo and most of the current whistleblowers were on the government payroll their whole lives. In fact they were in counter intelligence.
How do we know that Elizondo was ever broke and hasn’t been getting a check the whole time ?
Maybe he was genuine and is being threatened or blackmailed to destroy his own credibility like Whitley suggested ? Who knows but in my opinion Disclosure will never come from the US government.
I think it’s when the Visitors decide to reveal themselves which may not be that far in the future.
Whitley mentioned the immaculate constellation whistleblower Matthew Brown. There’s this powerpoint document that got him started on the whole thing, where they explain that immaculate constellation is not only researching “alien crafts” but also ARVs: Alien or (Advanced?) Reproduction Vehicles. Also according to the powerpoint presentation, the craft that makes a rendez-vous with the Russian fleet is thought to be an ARV. Doesn’t that suggest that more than a little progress has been made in backengineering programs? But by whom? Is it the Russians? Is it a mysterious private entity that Matthew alluded to at the end of his interviews with Ross Coulthart? This is all very confusing…
Oops! This is so confusing that I got confused with the podcast’s name: it’s the weaponized podcast, not Ross Coulthart. I swear it’s an honest mistake, not a psy op by the IC! 🙂
Hey! Reading your observations, I recognized that, at this point, I’m working off the premise that ARVs are a fact. So the question I’m flirting with is who’s got them and with whom are they coordinating/collaborating? There’s so much behind-the-scenes stuff we simply don’t know, like you said.
One thing is for sure, and it’s the lesser of two uglies in my mind. I sincerely hope that any ARVs flying over US soil belong to the US government and not a private US corporation with no oversight from the government. That’s my hope. My fear is, of course, the second. In either case, I still have my moments where I can get p-offed about it, you know?
For another indication that ARVs are real, there’s this interview of Michael Herrera over at American Alchemy: https://youtu.be/D2tKCFmJjks?si=t41x3n2U1KgKto2F
This the former marine who stumbled on an ARV in the Indonesian jungle. He later learned from Jake Barber that the ARV was there to transport some “psionic assets” recruited among the locals.
The only information that the governments of this world will ever disclose, is that which they know their adversaries already possess. Why give them a potentially new piece of the jigsaw they are all independently collecting and feverously attempting to assemble?
Yes, but it looks like they’re not even willing to go that far (disclosing what their adversaries already know) at this point…
The unwillingness of the various human factions to work together on this (and everything else) could damn our species to extinction through our own idiocy!
I’d be interested to know how they know what one another know! Hacking, spying? If neither, it sounds like they’re in a catch-22 of their own paranoid making.
Sherbet, the people “in the know” all seem to agree that the U.S., China and Russia (and perhaps other countries as well) are aware that NHI is here on Earth and is behind many of the UFO sightings. So disclosing that much would only reveal something that their adversaries already know.
Pascal, so it seems that something else is stopping them admitting what they collectively know. We’ve heard it mentioned that acknowledging their presence could open a ‘door’ that can never be closed…perhaps being related to some kind of tipping point in the collective unconscious. Is that is what the governments are afraid of? Whether true or not, it smacks of an other-worldly psychological test.
Like a kitten looking into a mirror for the first time…would we be open to the possibility of our hackles eventually going down, when we start to see ourselves in the reflection? I’m guessing the governments, on our behalf, with or without all the facts, are currently assuming and enacting a collective ‘No’.
Disclosure will not happen. We’ve gone over this for almost my entire lifetime and I’m in my late 60s now. I almost skipped the show because when I see the word “disclosure”, I know it’s going nowhere. I do enjoy Kelly and Whitley so I listened in anyhow but came away with nothing new. As is the usual with “disclosure”.
And yet, I’ll keep paying attention to the disclosure saga. It’s good to be aware that not everything might be true, that there might be ulterior motives, but one can still learn a lot from these half truths (at least I have).
Right after I wrote a comment here, I ran across this relevant live discussion with Leslie Kean hosting Jacques Vallee and Jeff Kripal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44RRek-DZg4
I think disclosure will never come as a big, official announcement… because nobody wants their name on it! They’re afraid of being blamed or held responsible for the sociological impact. I think the populace will eventually all become savvy as a result of the greys making their final play in the transition from Homo Sapiens to Homo Exogenus. We have precious few years left as a species.
It seems to me that looking to governments for validation in the form of Disclosure, is verging on Stockholm syndrome.
Sherbet…Ditto.
Whitley and Kelly, I really liked the exchange of both your thoughts and ideas. Also feel as though I know Kelly much better.
Conned? Of course we are, but that’s how our government works. How can an institution based on lying to its constituents ever be expected to come clean on anything? Especially concerning disclosure. I realize that’s a cynical and mildly hyperbolic statement, but the government’s denial of this is most certainly a lie.
But I don’t think we’re being helped by the private sector men scrambling to corner the market on disclosure either. Their claims via their podcasts, YouTube channels, etc. are so on-brand in a blatantly ego driven way. Egotistical, self serving, profit driven slickness: I’ll pass.
We come back here over and over again to this – it’s about us and our personal relationship with the phenomenon. We can bypass the chatter, the egos, the disinformation, and the attempts to control us by focusing our intent to grow on the source itself. And THAT’S what terrifies so many of those who are supposedly in power.
Waiting on these schmucks to tell us what’s going on is a waist of time. We’ll do it ourselves, and some of us already are: Sans the lies, the belief system tropes, and the shame. We’re already on our way
The Government have disclosed it. Tic tac. That’s all you’re going to get.
Let the Visitors do the disclosing. One of us at a time.
Yep, one at a time.
There are all kinds of people seriously attempting to get to the bottom of this. Learning as much that you can is important. What Experiencers say, however weird the things they say and experience (I’m one of them), matters. What open-minded researchers and scientists say…matters. Separating out the myths and bad information is up to us, takes WORK, and discernment is sadly lacking on so many levels where we are now. Many people are being dumbed down in ways that are down right scary. I’ve said it many times here: Would you trust Disclosure coming from a government that has been dealing in lies for at least 80 years? And especially from the idiots running the government right now?(OMG seems appropriate here.) This is a world issue, not one exclusive to the USA. If ‘disclosure’ does come, it has to be inclusive of all citizens of Earth, or not at all. So, we really aren’t there, are we?
Keep learning and asking questions. I’ve been signed up for this event for weeks, and for me, travel is daunting as well as expensive, so I attend whatever virtual events that I can:
Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies- SCU 2025 Conference
https://scu.regfox.com/2025-scu-conference
But, if disclosure comes from ‘Them’, the world will need well-informed, balanced people like many of us to help quell the uncertainty and be leaders, if only in our own little communities/towns/cities to guide the way with cool heads and minds.
No, I do not trust a government that’s been dealing in lies for the last 80-years. On that, we are in full agreement.
..And I rest my case…This just in…
FEMA staff baffled after head said he was unaware of US hurricane season, sources say
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fema-staff-confused-after-head-said-he-was-unaware-us-hurricane-season-sources-2025-06-02/
Idiots rule.
I agree with Kelly, the elite don’t want people empowered or aware. Somnambulism is a requirement for rule and control.
Try to wake people up and see who comes knocking. Not a great status quo, I have to say.
I really don’t think any government today is going to disclose this due to their current preeminence of the people.
Thinking like an earthling and thinking that other civilizations must evolve like us, misses the point of certain universal functions, e.g., of life and death, life after death. Does the universe provide an environment for much more evolved souls to self-maintain and further evolve? We are only toying with these ideas now. How many civilizations have been on earth before?
Did they have contact? Did other civilizations arrive from the stars only to be thrown back into the caves from cataclysm? The earth could have housed life like us for almost a billion years.
Would a modern government want you to know?
Would love to see you two do a Video Meeting Room together 🙂
This was really a superior discussion compared to most.