Retired CIA officer Jim Semivan returns for a deep dive into the motives and actions of the presence that we call aliens, which he says is living among us right now. He and Whitley go deep into the why and wherefore of contact. Who is here, why are they here, what are they doing and why are they doing it, and above all, WHY can’t the government and the defense industry just tell the public what they know so that we can join the discussion about what to do with this whole situation?
Don’t miss this intense and provocative discussion!
Jim Semivan is a director of To the Stars. Their new movie, Monsters of California is available to stream. You can watch the trailer here.
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Thank you for yet another great show! I wish this would continue for the next 25 years, or until full disclosure (whichever comes first).
Now for the nitpicking: during this the discussion about propulsion systems, Jim made a comparison to the brain-computer interfaces currently under development. At the risk of repeating what I wrote recently in the message board: brain-computer interfaces have nothing to do with propulsion, and everything to do with control of the craft. The same thing may be happening to those who pilot a UFO with their minds: not propulsion, but control. Then what do I know, perhaps the mind is involved in the propulsion system per se. But at least for the clarity of the discussion, it would be good to distinguish explicitly control from propulsion. End of nitpicking!
What if the craft’s only purpose was to massively enhance the pilot’s inate ability to use consciousness to affect the quantum realm…to create a bubble of influence large enough for the entire ship to jump through and between realities? I would no more call that a propulsion system, than I would a telescope, for enhancing the natural ability of the eye to collect photons. Terms like propulsion and control are next to meaningless when applied to something outside the grasp of our brightest minds. Whatever we think these craft are, I can pretty much guarantee that we are wrong.
Good point. I’m reminded of the “craft” in Orson Scott Card’s Ender’s Game series, where an uber-powerful AI figures out how to instantly transport people anywhere. The passengers simply step into a box and the AI does her calculations and then they step out of the box somewhere else. (If I remember correctly.)
It wouldn’t make sense to call that “propulsion.” It seems to bypass the physical universe rather than traveling through it. That’s the kind of thing described in UFO Sky Pilots– which has a lurid title but is a pretty sober and extremely interesting book.
Elsewhere in fiction, humans have also imagined something like this in the case of the TARDIS, which has a mind of her own. The Doctor has some control of the ship, but only some. They have to work together as a team. (And like the TARDIS, some UFO craft have been described as being bigger on the inside than the outside.)
Funnily enough, I have that book (UFO Sky Pilots) right in front of me. I bought it to compare the stories with my own brief experience from years ago…but I haven’t actually started reading it yet.
I seem to remember there being something in one of Whitley’s books, possibly ‘Majestic’, about a craft being larger on the inside and that there were also time-dilation effects when spending any time inside it.
In my own slight experience, the craft was about 4 feet tall when I was looking at it from the outside but about 7 feet when I was standing inside. On the subject of control, for me, there was no touching of hand controls…but when I sat on the floor, I became one with the craft and I could then see outside, as if the craft’s lower half were one of my eyeballs.
Pulse Frequency can stimulate your brain. Your brain emits frequency data or EEG. Your body emits EMG. Frequency and resonance could potentially control a craft with specific orientation so it is relevant.
To say it is relevant assumes an understanding of what a UFO actually is. To assume it can be controlled by electromagnetic means is making way too many blind-leaps about something that can appear just as easily in waking reality as it can within the Astral or Dream worlds. When we understand consciousness, then we may have a hope of making that leap…until then, all bets are off.
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52 mins in……That encounter is mentioned in “The Lovecraft Code”, Lavenda’s best work and writing.
Thank you Whitley and Jim Semivan for this interview. Very much appreciated. I am including a website for those who want to follow a UAP sighting……Jeremy Corbell.
“Classified UFO briefing: House members emerge with mixed feelings.” ALSO, a video and interview from…NewsNation… concerning the ‘Jellyfish’ UAP video.
Classified UFO briefing: House members emerge with mixed feelings (msn.com)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/classified-ufo-briefing-house-members-emerge-with-mixed-feelings/ar-AA1mTqDN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=feea00361c3b4952a055bec866f7665d&ei=20
Hopefully the full ‘Jellyfish UFO’ footage will be released at some point….specially its trans-medium capabilities, where is apparently submerged into water for 17 minutes, re-emerged and then shot off upwards at a 45 angle…although I’m not holding my breath.
But why a jellyfish-type shape? If it were purely technological, it seems a strange design, so maybe it is more biological, or biologically designed (assuming that kind of classification can even be made about these things)…If so perhaps the shape helps movement beneath the waves and can also aid optical and RADAR obfuscation when above? Who knows…it is certainly an intriguing one! But regarding the video evidence, I feel it would be far more compelling to have side-by-side optical and FLIR footage, to highlight that these things often cannot be detected using conventional optical means (i.e. normal cameras and the human eye).
In Roddenberry’s Andromeda series, the ships are biological sentient entities.
Yeah, I used to enjoy watching that series.
Thank You both for a wonderful affirmation. Until we get over is there a NHI intelligence engaging humanity, we will never get clear answers. Apparently there are multiple NHI engaging humanity, but if or how they are related is still not known.
The clear answers will never come as long as this continues to be conceived in purely materialist literalist terms that can’t see beyond a space opera sci-fi narrative that has been shoved down our throats by the very people wanting to deceive us. The only way to actually understand the structure of our universe within which anomalous phenomena are happening is to do the hard work of studying millennia-old esoteric teachings. It was only in the middle of the 20th century that this phenomenon started being referred to as “aliens,” right after our Industrial Revolution. Before that, every spiritual system knew what these “beings” and other elements actually are. And it’s not nults and bolts ships from Zeta Reticuli. This is a delusion born out of pure materialism and a forgetting of our esoteric natures and the realities of our solar system. A good place to start would be Theosophy, or even better, Anthroposophy, which comprehensively brought to the 20th century the teachings of thousands of years of observation of our universe and cosmos by mystics and others. As long as people don’t look beyond aliens, they will live in distortion, not truth.
Well put. I feel like, ironically perhaps, Dr Valle comes closest to that kind of revelation but Whitley has also included esotericism in his theories and studied it for decades.
Killer show you two!!! Thanks to the both of you. I wanna see what’s in the box!!!!
PURE CIA plant, in the same group as Luis Elizondo (who has even exposed himself), David Grusch, Chris Mellon, Jeremy Corbell, and so many others heavily working the media and ufology community with this long-developing false flag operation that goes back to Project Paperclip and Wernher von Braun. We are in dangerous times now and these delusions fed to us that rely on our brainwashing and lack of individual education and knowledge of CIA history must be exposed. Time for everyone in the New Age to wake. up. Check out Dark Journalist on YouTube and his thousands of hours of rigorous and deep dive research, and only one video is enough to lay out all the obvious connections with everyone in these alphabet soup agencies with the UFO file and the deceptions they’re all weaving.
I wondered about this immediately upon seeing the title and bio of this interviewee. My understanding of CIA operators is that they are sworn to nondisclosure. This person’s involvement and Hollywood and the well-known tool of sensationalist media is very concerning to me, and creates a deep distrust..
I am with you on this. Our Whole Planet is a NonHuman Intelligence. So 1st World POV here. And, my heart is made uneasy by this person . White Male, CIA, has a “media” company run by a mostly white male/European board…saw at least one, maybe 2 white, European women. So on guard about this man. Bring First Nations, non Europeans in , please. The sky, the minerals, the creatures are all singing.
With respect, the issue of ethnicity is far down the totem pole of concerns, as the topic here isn’t social/racial injustice but global lies to serve much much bigger power plays.
Barry, it’s wise to never put all of one’s eggs in the same basket. An overall knowledge of as many perspectives as possible is key—including mystical, spiritual, religious, political, philosophical, scientific, historical, etc. A mind is a terrible thing to waste, and a closed one…?
I’ve listened to Dreamland for years—as well as ‘Dark Journalist’ (and others), . Rudolph Steiner is in my book collection. As long as I’ve been at this, I get valuable information from many sources, some that may surprise a lot of folks. I am far from being ‘New Age’, and I’m sure there are others here that that may be offended at being considered ‘New Age’.
Many people here go much deeper than you know, so don’t sell us short. A lot of us are basically experiencers of all kinds, not just UFOS. We are seekers of truth and wisdom, and are aware that we have a lot of exploring to do, much of it into places, belief systems, ideas, theories, and forms of spirituality where the average person will not go— and that includes podcasts.
I would feel differently if you just said, “I don’t trust the CIA or anyone affiliated with it.” Fair enough. But to assume that the rest of us cannot enjoy a podcast for purely informational purposes, and are totally lacking in discernment, is not giving us enough credit, especially if you tell us to listen to another podcast instead…which you have also done in the past.
Cosmiclibrarian, I have never put all my eggs in one basket, which is precisely what has opened my eyes to the truths of the larger picture – a conclusion after several years of intensive and wide-ranging research. I have never meant to insult anyone on here, nor did I refer to anyone on this page specifically as “New Age”; I am speaking of the community in general, as this continued, odd submission to intelligence agents just surges and increases, despite everyone claiming to understand that these agencies have spent 70 years propagating lies and obfuscating truth – not to mention ridiculing the very people who subscribe to this podcast. That’s not me – that’s the people supposedly just coming on here to give us “information.” It’s not informational when it’s deceit. Like you and everyone else, I have learning to do every day, and I look forward to being able to augment and grow what I believe and understand to be the truth. My message is speaking to a very different aspect of this pursuit and exploration, a distinct and long-proven deception that is taking a stranglehold of the ufology and New Age communities. My goal has never been to offend, but this is a forum page and everyone gets to express their perspective. I’m expressing mine. And I’ve never tried to suppress yours or anyone else’s. Thanks.
I would say that just listening to viewpoints is not the same as ‘submission’. At this point, most of us do not understand as much about it all as we think we do. The learning curve is steep, and we should take nothing for granted, especially when it comes to categorizing friend or foe. One of the biggest problems in this country right now is that so many refuse to listen to other view points, and listening is not the same as acceptance, but it may bring understanding.
“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
David Grusch, the so-called CIA whistleblower, has just recently spoken with Dark Journalist, the deepest researcher on the false flag operations happening by the intelligence agencies against the ufology community and mainstream in general, and said he would like to go on the show but is scared of angering Chris Mellon and Jim Semivan and Luis Elizondo, who have a hold on him and the narrative he tells the public. Is he telling the truth? We can’t know, but it confirms what so many researchers and what simple investigation and connecting the myriad dots reveals. When 2+2 equals 4 and the numbers are available for everyone to see if they take the time, it becomes submission to say “Well, maybe it equals seven.”
I can’t help but be suspicious of Jim Semivan.. I cannot shake it. My intuition is close to 100%.. I don’t trust him, he is deceptive.. he is making a round on the circuits to give false data.. i dont know why and i don’t know what his motive is, i just know that he is not being honest about the phenomenon.. i do not trust him even a little bit.
What’s the endgame for this co-ordinated CIA PsyOp, are you suggesting it’s the layup for WvB’s prediction of a fake alien invasion?
Indeed. What I would like to know as well.
Nothing about any of this is proven. whenever someone decides, they have the answer, that person has lost the game.
Agreed. The more I learn, the less I know.
Yes it would imply that person has the ability to see or know the future, and where’s the fun in that 🙂
Nothing about any of this is proven. Whenever someone decides they have the answer, that person has lost the game.
Nicely put! I think the game keeps shifting with the mirror of perspective like the elephant metaphor. I wonder if our brains are in fact not wired to see the big picture (yet).
hi whitley, thought you’d be interested in this
whistleblower talking about being told of a reverse-engineered craft that crashed and they coudn’t get working. he seems to be telling the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQDO0ZKroQc
Great show, but I’m left with the hollow feeling of WHY BOTHER! Jim was right disclosure happened with Communion. Yes we have this extreme desire to have the government acknowledge it, but they can’t answer what we want to know. Yes we can be mad that they haven’t told us what they know, but the responsible entity is THEM. They hold the cards, they have messed with us throughout our history. I’d argue they have committed sin in the definition the man in the key described. It just smacks of a parasitic communion. I acknowledge that we don’t know everything and that may mean everything but why can’t they fill in the blanks?
I agree with Stan the Man
Concerning the coffin – around 114th minute
maybe ‘Them’ can’t leave, but we can…?
maybe they’re trying to hitch a ride ;0)
74th minute (1hr 14mins) 🙂
lol
yep
thank you
The coffin referred to in that part of the show reminds me of the religious ideas of predetermination and free will, both granted by god. Can we have both or is that what the veil divides, while letting both exist? Very deep water to explore, it hurts and stimulates my thoughts.
Listening to two insightful people discuss a subject so fascinating for so many years, feeds my soul. Thank you!