In 2022 Roberto Pinotti, the founder of the International Coalition for Extraterrestrial Research, broke the news that a UFO had crashed in Italy in 1933. Stunning the world with his excellent research, he showed that this event had happened, and that a 30 foot long UFO had ended up in the hands of the Mussolini government. It was shared with the Nazis and after the war shipped to the United States. Here, Pinotti tells us the whole amazing story, including the fact that the object may have sparked now lost or hidden UFO developments in Nazi Germany, including the development of the legendary “Bell” that may have warped space-time. (Subscribers, to listen to our explosive 2006 interview with Joseph Farrell on the Bell, click here. Not a subscriber? No problem, click here instead!)
The screenshot shows the second page of a 1936 report about the object, with a drawing.
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Whitley: Back about 30 years ago, my sister was living in Tucson; she rented a room in a suburban house. The house had a large skylight in the middle. One night she came home well after dark, and walked into the house, and noticed an orange glow coming through the skylight. She went outside, and saw an orange UFO hovering right above the house. Her description matches the photo of the object you show in the video at about 16:00.
Curiously, after seeing the object, she just went back into the house, and went to bed!
The high seas of consciousness above us never cease to amaze me. In particular, with a terrible war looming, the over-mind of our Mother showed its heart and reached out to encourage hearts to open rather than be closed by the manipulated hatred of invested leaders and their shadow masters.
The image of a ‘craft’ that was shown could be the denser manifestion of a being that lives in a higher order of consciousness above us.
When some have been present at the passing of others, they have at times reported seeing a cloud or mist rise up from the body. I posit that our consciousness exists within our physical transports in a form of bio luminous plasma of sorts. With so many living beings living on this beautiful orb, it is not unimaginable that the sky above us is a heavenly ocean of consciousness, aware of itself, aware of the memories of the lifeforms that have lived and risen up into its embrace and also aware of the creatures still below, going about their business of gathering and living.
Consider this, if the sky above us is a conscious being/Mother then, merely in breathing, we have the sky within us, right down to the circulating water vapour in our bodies.
For a higher order of consciousness above us to be part of our lives, perhaps, just perhaps, all we really have to do is think up and pay attention, rather than look down and hold on to blame, regret and a readiness to attack.
For the appearance of a heavenly presence to reveal itself in 1933 does not surprise me in the least and I am always inspired and refreshed to hear of such accounts. I thank Roberto for raising people’s attention to this arguably divine manifestation and if I may, draw attention to the fact that the manifestation occurred in the seat of a new problematic socio-political movement that was about to rain down darkness on souls.
Someone above us could see that and offered a hand, perhaps? Was the invitation to think differently and chose a different path ignored?
Information is so tightly controlled. Have faith and be good, especially when your heart is heavy and you feel the tidal flow of emotion upon you.
Peace.
I agree that some of what is happening is higher celestial beings, but the some harvest (mutilate) cows for material for their food processor. Then there is the underworld: if one considers celestial realms, one must also contend with the realm of the dead. The Cosmos, the three realms, is much more complex and mysterious than we can pin down with word symbols. In this middle realm estimates vary from a dozen or two ET species, to 80 or a hundred! They are not all in agreement or alignment. We are in the middle of a complex mess.
This was fascinating, and also more validation. Here in the U.S. so many people don’t realize (or give thought to) that the phenomenon affects the whole world. We tend to be myopic that it’s not all in the hands of our government and military… And I just received a strange sound in my right ear that I only get from them when discussing these topics…Yes, kind of weird.
EMP- electromagnetic pulse is what Mr. Pinotti refers to in the latter part of the interview. EMPs are well-known, and could be used to bring an airplane down (or stop a car). Or to bring down a civilization…? Years ago EMPs were in the news as a possibility of bringing a nation to its knees without total destruction, along with the neutron bomb (kill everyone and leave infrastructure intact.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse
I read ‘The Interrupted Journey’ back around 1968 when I was a kid, and I distinctly remember Barney Hill mentioning seeing through the craft’s windows the figure of a man wearing a Nazi uniform. I’ve searched, and I can’t find a reference to that anywhere. I asked my partner about it, and he remembers it too. I may have to find a copy of the book and read it again. This could fit into the time travel idea.(And psychologists had a field day with it years ago too. The Hills were a mixed race couple, an eyebrow-raising thing back then. So they took that and ran with it, rather than focus on the real trauma the couple experienced that was highly strange. Drawings of the beings that they saw were not that much different from the Greys that many have seen since then, especially the shape of the eyes)
I remember the Joseph Farrell interview about the Nazi Bell, and have also read about it. The ‘Bell’ suspiciously matches the description of the Kecksburg UFO, which has its share of controversy about what happened. It was more acorn shaped, included writing on it, and was alleged to have been taken away by the feds, who of course denied it and that the whole thing was a hoax.
…And let’s not forget ‘Operation Paperclip’. Over a thousand German scientists, engineers, and technicians were brought to the U.S. at the end of WWII, and some were Nazis. Werner Von Braun was just one of many who made it over here, and he was a guest on Disney when I was a kid. (Yikes!) As I got older and knew more history, I was kind of appalled by it. Operation Paperclip was supposed to mainly be about rocketry, and it did lead to our space program, but I would not be surprised if there was a lot more to it. Jim Marrs’ ‘The Rise of the Fourth Reich’ is chilling as well.
So, piece by piece we are getting more clues…And I guess if you are old enough and have looked at all this for years, you may see the connections, that appear to be more than coincidence.
Von Hausenberg: I was with my dad when he passed. There was no mist, but I remember having the sense that he was hovering above me and looking down. I even turned around and looked up where I sensed him. A few hours later when we got home, we knew he was upstairs in his grandsons’ rooms. There’s more, but suffice to say he was more ‘advanced’ than I ever imagined!
Cosmic…Might this help with the Nazi question?
Now I am going to watch this interview…….
https://www.gaia.com/article/betty-and-barney-hill-abduction
The Hypnosis of Barney and Betty Hill
Dr. Simon held sessions with the two for a period of six months, beginning in early 1964. Initially, at the end of each session, he would induce amnesia so they would not talk to each other about what they remembered. Barney recalled that, at one point, he got out of his car with the .45 military issue weapon that he once used in the Army. He fired at the UFO, but soon became overwhelmed by the aliens. They took him and his wife onto the spacecraft, where he recalled a red-headed Irishman greeting him along with a number of people who did not appear human. He thought they were speaking German.
Barney described his experience, beginning with a description of the aliens’ uniforms. He said that they wore peaked caps and a uniform with silver piping — an appearance that reminded him of the SS Panzer Nazi uniforms worn during WWII. He also recalled there was a German shepherd that stayed near the red-headed Irishman.
Barney said that the Irishman spoke English, but also communicated silently in a way that Barney could understand the message. Betty gave this same report about communication. Both Barney and Betty reported that the extraterrestrials conducted medical experiments on them. They took samples of the Hills’ blood, other bodily fluids and hair. Betty added that they also scraped her skin for sampling.
I read through a document a while back (https://www.nicap.org/reports/610919hill_report2.pdf) It’s possible that my 13 year-old brain remembers ‘Nazis’ even though that word never appears in the NICAP document, but the description may have led my thoughts that direction, if that was the same description in the book. The reason I looked at the document recently was to find if there was a reference to Nazis. So…the book may have that detail, as does the Gaia article, but the NICAP report does not.
Amniocentesis did not come into widespread use until the 70’s…But that sounds an awful lot like what happened to Betty—a long needle inserted into the navel area. It’s used for genetic testing a fetus. I know because they were going to use it on me when I was pregnant with my son, but I ended up with a less invasive procedure. Betty was not pregnant (that she knew), so that is an odd detail about the being inserting the needle into her navel—and making it sound like she had an ‘option’ in the NICAP report. In addition, if we think about Nazis and WWII, then we know that they were into eugenics, which makes one wonder even more about what really happened. It’s mind boggling.
Pinotti also discussed and had an illustration of an orange object much like that described by the Hills in the NICAP document.
Cosmic, Page 54 (top-right)…
ABOARD A FLYING SAUCER THE ADVENTURES OF TWO ‘KIDNAPPED’ HUMANS
https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP81R00560R000100010003-8.pdf
Sherbet…I guess my 13 year-old brain did remember it! And that reference was also in the book. I’m 71 now, suffered a stroke 5 years ago, so validation is important for me. Thanks!
What’s interesting to me was that detail in light of what was said by Mr. Pinotti, and how even NICAP glossed over it. When I first read ‘Communion’ when it was published, I remembered ‘The Interrupted Journey’ from many years before and wondered if there was a connection. When more abductees began to talk and reveal their experiences, I knew that the connections were not mere coincidence. Now for some REALLY strange information, connected to someone I know…Make of it what you will…
https://www.crystalinks.com/EllieGermany.html
Hmm, very interesting!
Did I hear correctly that there was supposed to be some news about antigravity?? If so it doesn’t seem to have shown up yet. Maybe I misheard?
Maybe this?…
https://www.unknowncountry.com/headline-news/propellant-less-drive-experiment-produces-enough-force-to-counteract-earths-gravity-and-possibly-explain-ufo-propulsion/
Just a theory saying it is possible. If there is tech, nothing practical has been revealed that I have seen.
By no means proof but this doesn’t sound like just a theory to me…
“That is until November of 2023, when their experiments began to produce enough thrust that exceeded the 40-gram weight of the test device, enough force to, if the apparatus was arranged correctly, cause it to levitate, countering the effect of Earth’s gravitational pull.”
Exactly! By the way, for the moment we don’t really know that this is “antigravity”, only that this force is strong enough to counteract gravity. But a very interesting development in any case, if it is confirmed.
I wonder if any of it has to do with Bob Lazar’s Project Gravitaur he’s supposed to have put out on Netflix early this year, but now they claim they’re ‘upgrading’ what they’ve already filmed. Can’t help but wonder if something is big coming soon.
Indeed, UFOs sometimes stop car due to an electromagnetic effect. The physics of this is explained in detail in one of the youtube videos of the recent Sol conference at Stanford.
Also I read somewhere (perhaps in “Skinwalkers at the Pentagon”?) that at some point, some police forces in the U.S. were outfitted with such a weapon. Very convenient for a high speed car chase! It would be nice to have an independent confirmation of this.
Roberto Pinotti, interesting that in 1978 there were 2,000 sightings in Italy during an incredible UFO wave. Something I want to post that happened in ELSBERRY, MISSOURI in 1978 as well.
Late afternoon, a young man came to do the annual inspection for my air-conditioner. As he was leaving, I ask, “Are you a city boy or a country boy?” Not sure why I even ask a question like that. He responded by saying he was from IOWA, moved to Missouri and purchased a house in ELSBERRY along with some acreage. As soon as he said ELSBERRY my thoughts went back to 1978. I told him the story of cattle mutilations/ufos. It was a big event in Missouri at the time. He was anxious to check out the history.
ELSBERRY, MISSOURI CATTLE MUTILATIONS (1978)
It was the summer of 1978 when ranchers in Elsberry, Missouri realized something was very wrong. Numerous cattle were found in fields killed with almost surgical precision. It just so happened to occur when a rash of UFO sightings were also reported in the area.
The Bizarre Cow Mutilations in Missouri During Summer of ’78
ELSBERRY, MISSOURI CATTLE MUTILATIONS (1978) (youtube.com)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1s8tyWDrAQ
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My guess is that there were no Nazis on board… far more likely is that Barney’s memory or even his real time perception was influenced by being a world war II vet.