A few weeks ago, Whitley received a furious communication from the visitors, complaining that he needed to stop talking only about the bad things that have happened to him and look to the good side of it as well. He replied with a gentle, heartfelt response that centered around forgiveness and reconciliation. So then what happened. DId it work or not? Listen as he tells the story of how his relationship with this mysterious presence has been changed forever. An unforgettable edition of Dreamland as this gentle man brings his heart straight into the furnace of the visitors’ fury.
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Whitley, Cayce is pronounced like “Casey.”
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The notion of timeline is reminiscent of the quantum multiverse theory. As pointed out by the physicist David Deutsch, this theory offers a solution to the grandfather paradox. There is a quantum superposition of 2 timelines, one in which the grandfather is killed and one in which he isn’t. When the grandchild goes back in time and kills his grandfather, he effectively jumps from one timeline to the other.
If the greys are time travelers, they are perhaps here to escape a bad timeline. The bad events that they are trying to escape might be related to current action from humanity – perhaps messing with the environment or with nuclear weapons, if the warnings given to so many contactees are to be taken seriously. They may be getting nervous now because their efforts to steer humanity in the desired direction are failing – which is not hard to believe with the current environmental and political situation.
I would not bet my money (or my soul) on the above theory, but it’s a way to make sense of the time traveling hypothesis.
With the multiverse theory, I don’t hear mentioned very often that going back in time would effectively be a one-way trip. If the act of time travel creates a new timeline, then you are never getting back to the original branch…making a time traveller a refugee of sorts.
Yes, if the time travel hypothesis is true this is exactly what the greys might be : refugees. Is this why the universe looks like a coffin to them?
From what I remember Whitley saying, it’s because, like the dead, they cannot change.
Edited: I’ve just come back to edit this, as I think the Universe has a quick message…I was just scrolling through Insta and this exept from the movie Troy (2004) came up…
Achilles: “I,ll tell you a secret. Something they don’t teach you in the temple. The gods envy us. They envy us because we’re mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we’re doomed”.
I am not sure why Whitley makes a connection between the deteriorating environment and becoming a cosmic species. Despite all the current and future environmental problems, fixing that still looks way easier than terraforming Mars or some other planet.
I’m taking Whitley’s course. The first session was last Thursday. I do recommend it. It is not all entirely new to, but I’ve picked up quite a few important things already. I have a huge list of questions, which may be answered…maybe not.
What is the activity in the video? Very weird…It’s shadowy quick movement. It’s seen near the bureau and below the photo of Anne and the being. The movement is now moving up higher. If anyone else sees it, please say something.
Yes, I saw this, too, throughout the broadcast. It seems to be made up of tiny dark blocks around the edges that are in constant movement. This shadowy appearance does not overlap Whitley or the objects on the right (from the viewers’ perspective) side of his desk. What it does do is move when Whitley moves. If he leans to the right in the video, it moves similarly and vice versa. The shadow ends at Whitley’s shoulder which it appears to touch. Very curious.
Some commenters on youtube say it’s a glitch in the background image that Whitley uses for his show (he is not actually sitting in the room that we see on the screen).
The weirdness is a digital artifacts caused by the software used to substitute the real background for a static image. If you notice, the light source is from above and to the left of Whitley, so I strongly suspect the software is getting confused by Whitley’s shadow, behind and to the right, hence why it is moving when he moves.
Good to know! All that movement was unreal. It never stopped.
Yeah, that kind of thing to me is distracting at best, annoying at worst. Those kind of things are why I often prefer listening to the mp3 instead.
When I was younger, I used to listen to music with my over-ear headphones on. I would press them cose to my ears to get the full bass, and peferrably in complete darkness, so I could give it my full attention! My family thought it quite eccentric but it felt like the most natural thing to do.
Whitley, you compare the visitors to doctors. Doctors with a good bedside manner get a lot more from their patients than ones that don’t. The visitors seem to have no bedside manner. Just as we do with animals to get them to do what we want, we work with them understanding their own nature. After all this time, why haven’t the visitors learn to do that?
To have a good bedside manner, one either needs a compassionate nature, or the ability and requirement to feign it. The visitors probably have neither. Their actions suggest to me a driven, selfish attempt to achieve their goals, through manipulation and coersion. Whatever it is, it seems to require our cooperation…willing or not. If we were to benefit from that goal is suceeding, it would likely be coincidental, rather than by design.
If they knew, that by faking a bedside manner, they would get better results, why wouldn’t they do it? Maybe they need to be educated. If they’re going to do it anyway, it would be better to work with people on their level for best results. Apparently they don’t know how to think outside the box.
Good question…perhaps even knowing that, they are incapable of faking it. Maybe it would be like trying to train a wild animal…their true nature always prevailing. If the Visitors primarily exist outside the timestream, then change may not be possible for them. That ability may actually be something they require us for…and could be something they are reverent of…or even intensely jealous of. The latter of which potentially being a reason why they do not treat us particularly well.
If you’ve seen footage of great horned sheep being airlifted and dangling from a helicopter to save and move them, you know that we did not reason with them or display ‘bedside manner’. We watch lots of nature shows and the things humans do in the animals best interest…it doesn’t mean that they are not terrified when we do it. In some cases they anesthetize the animals, but not always. I’ve even seen humans blindfold animals so they can’t see what is going on.
But the visitors are angry at humans reactions. If it were a life and death situation yes what you say is true. But they would get better results if they did manage us on our level. Why would they do this process and then get angry when it wasn’t working the way they wanted it to. If they did a process that is more compatible with humans they would get better results. Seems like a case of poor management.
The stakes maybe higher than you think.
Regarding their nature, I assume you’ve heard the parable of ‘The Scorpion and the Frog’?
I think Whitley is right, they are afraid. I think they are soafraid they can’t trust anyone. Someone acting out of fear only is not rational.
I think they are afraid, but maybe not for the reasons we think they are. First off, they are totally alien to us, not just in looks, but in behavior, intellect, and emotion. We shouldn’t expect them to act as we would. Even if they are trans-dimensional they could be affected by what we do. I recommend that everyone read ‘Trinity’ by Harris and Vallee. Many have questioned this pre-Roswell account of what may have occurred as the result of what happened in New Mexico near the end of WWII. We are in danger on this planet, big time, right now, from so many things. To think what happens here only affects us is misguided. It could ripple out in ways beyond our ability to comprehend, even regarding time and dimensions.
True or not, the story J-Rod is compelling. It’s all very weird.
https://en.ikwipedia.org/wiki/J-Rod
This makes me laugh – sorry but my dogs reaction to the vet… he rarely nips but he’d almost takes the vets arm off over an injection. My dog is so naughty the vet can’t even take a blood sample. I was totally the same when the visitors came to me.
Before I realised they could read minds I was imagining ways I could kill this tiny little weird looking thing with big black eyes that was sitting on my bed!!
Re bedside manners…This makes me laugh – sorry but my dogs reaction to the vet… he rarely nips but he’d almost takes the vets arm off over an injection. My dog is so naughty the vet can’t even take a blood sample. I was totally the same when the visitors came to me.
Before I realised they could read minds I was imagining ways I could kill this tiny little weird looking thing with big black eyes that was sitting on my bed!! That’s when I was quickly shown their “power” met their “mind reading” and also their “invisibility” I became acutely aware of more of them in the room- it was a feeling- I couldn’t see them.
But they were there!!
What happened to video version of this week’s Dreamland?
ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C7-H0uql1M