As a child, a devastating head injury left John Seer in a coma and led to a powerful near-death experience. Years later, at just sixteen and serving in the Royal Navy, he witnessed a UFO tracked on radar and confronted by military aircraft. During the encounter, he received an astonishing message: “We are your children. Your children’s children. We are from the sea and the sky.”
But that was only the beginning.
Seer describes a mysterious encounter with an apparently Franciscan monk aboard a late-night train—a meeting that transformed his life and, he believes, opened him to an extraordinary stream of information about consciousness, time, the nature of reality and humanity’s future.
Then the conversation takes a startling turn. Seer explains why he believes the mysterious number 137 is fundamental to reality and delivers an urgent warning about artificial intelligence, including crucial turning points he associates with 2027 and 2037.
This is Dreamland at the edge of the unknown: UFOs, near-death experience, future humans, consciousness, AI—and the possibility that all of them are connected.
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Am I the only one or does the monk in this story remind us of the Master of the Key in a different guise? The warnings that John received seem somewhat similar. Are they not from the same source?
What an interesting idea. I wish I’d thought to compare his book with the Key and then ask him for more detail about the monk.
It is an idea that crossed my mind while listening to his interview. Right on, except for the detail that a drink was not offered.
@R. Douglas: Whoever he was, he seemed to have one foot in this world and the other somewhere different entirely.
@Boomer: “except for the detail that a drink was not offered.” …that he remembers.
What a lovely man, encompassing great simplicity and wisdom.
What a fascinating and amazing interview. Thank you both so much!
Not convinced by this story. He sounds like one of those TV clairvoyants. If Michael Shermer listened to this he’d hold his hand up the moment he said massive head trauma as a child. I sure he believes it all but for me it’s falling short.
I honestly didn’t get Derek Acorah vibes from John. With this kind of story, I think the more important focus, at least for me, is how it changed the direction of his life. A skeptic might like to insist on an objective reality but the fact is, to a large degree, our reality is a subjective creation…so like it or not, in cases like this, proof is pretty much meaningless. Whether his experience was some kind of external intervention or a wholly internally generated delusion, what is important is that his perspective shifted due to a subjective truth…welcome to the human experience.
I agree, it all about the journey, and trauma is pivotal to growth. But I felt he wasn’t presenting these events as such. I don’t think he’s a con-man like DA (although DA was very entertaining at times). I’ve personally had events that (people on podcasts describe as paranormal – meeting light beings etc) if I chose to, could believe were interdimensional. But I believe they were inner mind journeys, and if asked to talk about them would say they were such. They’ve helped me understand reality and opened the doors of perception, but I wouldn’t claim some sort of divine knowledge or that I’m a messenger to humanity. The first time I read Whitley’s books (from uk didn’t know his backstory) I thought, this guy is either a brilliant writer (which of course he is either way), or a bit mad like PK Dick. I decided there and then that I didn’t care which one was true, I’m still going to read all his books and subscribe to his website. His definition of sin in Master of the Key is so profound, who cares where it came from. Maybe I’m rationally deluding myself with my own beliefs, but I am aware the mind is a very tricky labyrinth to navigate if you’re not vigilant and have some sort of yardstick to reference back to. It’s easy to get lost.
Interesting and original takes on the future. So which future is our future? It could be different futures…I don’t feel that there is only one, and some of us in the audience could even end up in different timelines. The year of major changes, 2027 has been picked up by many, including astrologers and Edgar Cayce. The future mentioned where the Grays show up, may even be a different future than the one with AI. We may want to take to heart Gandhi’s words, “Be the change you wish to see in the world”.
When I read and do research, I do not use AI. I do it the old fashioned way, even if I’m on the internet. AI can be a valuable tool, but it seems there are many people who use it that are simply are on the lazy side. They have forgotten how to learn and explore. That’s what really has me concerned about young people. AI is ripe for exploitation, as well as exploiting human kind…not a good combination.
Regarding the energy needed for the AI for its end game ( It is an ‘It’, not living, not he or she), I am reminded of the film ‘The Matrix’, where humans are used as ‘batteries’ for the AI. The movie featured a future very similar to the one discussed, including how certain humans find a way out by becoming more than human. It’s a movie worth revisiting. And I find it really telling that men who are warning us lately about the dangers of AI are the ones actively developing it, even racing and competing with one another. That’s messed up, yet governments are reluctant to do anything about it.
There are so many prophecies about the future, I tend to just ignore them. But it’s true that there’s an awful lot of material out there about 2027, and it certainly looks as if the world is on a dangerous road that leads in the wrong direction. Could be that things will indeed come to a head next year.
…And prophecies can also distract us from the things we should really be paying attention to. I tend to ignore them too. I’ve seen things too, that have come to pass, but I’m not ready to take on the responsibility of writing about them or putting them out to the public. One thing that I only warned close friends and family about years ago, they said, “No, that’s not possible.” When it did come to pass, my spouse was dazed after it happened, asking, “How did you know?” All I remember is that I saw it in a flash, along with its repercussions. It was instantaneous. It was a ‘knowing’ rather than a prophecy.
2027 sounds like a ‘marker’ in the timeline that is important. And it doesn’t take anyone special to know what’s going to happen, but observing just our nation right now we know that things are untenable as they are, regardless of politics, and people are feeling it.
I’ve heard it said that worrying is like praying for an undesired future. Why plant a seed in others that you wouldn’t want manifested?
Maybe prophesies are like taking a peek at the Yellow Cube…only showing the collapsing of one of many possible (or likely) futures into a temporarily crystalised form. The very viewing of which could potentially shift its probability of occuring…self defeating, or self-reinforcing, depending on which side of the razor blade you happen to be quantumly leaning.
Let’s talk, Schrodinger’s cat…
What is the standard deviation understanding system for a visitor’s use of our English word “prophecy”? TIME is mostly likely an unshakable LOCATION(a forever christos in heavens) as the yaw pitch and roll is/has lain out. Past seems permanent but future could back stitch to past and deviate “i” like fork in a hoop never exactly the same but available for deviation, “patch work”, premontion…etc..
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But is the past written in stone? What if things thought, said, or done can reverberate up and down the timeline? Ever have the feeling when the past is discussed that you don’t remember it that way at all, not just personally, but in the world at large? Could deja vu be something related to that and consciousness? ‘Groundhog Day’ is still a remarkable film in the way it plays with these ideas.
I once, spontaneously, had a past life memory of a life where I carried guilt just as I was dying. It was devastating, and the memory had me in tears. It was a horrible event, but…I spoke to ‘myself’ in that other time, reminded him that he was only human, and what happened was not his fault. It was like a huge weight had been lifted off of MY shoulders in that moment.
“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it”.
(Widely attributed to) Albert Einstein.
As we watch AI evolve, it may help answer a question about UFO encounters. We may encounter highly intelligent beings or robots that seem almost human, leaving us wondering if they’re part human and part robot. But perhaps they’re not biological at all. Maybe simply incredibly advanced AI. 🛸
Yes,maybe what we call aliens are the future AI created “robots + ai-consciousness” , coming back to this point in time looking for the real key to life as we humans experience it. If that “AI” is yearning only for knowledge, the universe itself requires a container of knowledge that is infinite and eternal, to keep growing and amassing that power.
If they’re not biological, the preverbial elephant in the room looms in the form of a question…why are they humanoid in shape?
Is it the most efficient way to interact with physical Earth? Our biological template could then have been copied and tweaked to suite their purpose here.
Is that template the easiest, or perhaps the only way to attach a soul to the biological frame?
If they have done it to aid interaction with us, they have failed miserably, if there was any attempt to avoid the uncanny valley viseral rejection of the not-quite-human form.
Or could they indeed be biologically related to us, either ancestor, descentent, or some time-hopping, dimension-jumping combimation of the two?
Regarding them being advanced AI…how about them potentially being AI’s attempt at trying to insert itself into the physical? Or maybe their interdimentionality is a failed attempt to spin souls for themselves.
Questions beget more questions…unravelling into quiet unkowning.
This interview includes a number of useful concepts, such as the concise definition of humans as “containers for souls” and the tension between the will to be and the will to not be. And the phrase “We are your Children’s Children. We are from the Sea and the Sky” is so beautiful and evocative— and I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s literally true.
There is so much here that makes little sense or is provably wrong, though. It’s simply not true that we only have bones from Neanderthals, for example; we have fossils of many types of human precursors and relatives. Channeled, dreamt, and otherwise intuitively perceived information can be metaphorical to begin with, and can go through many layers of filters on the way to being expressed verbally or in pictures. It seems like Mr. Seer knows that, yet he also seems to present some of his material as being definite truth. My sense is that it should perhaps be received as more symbolic, more like the contents of dreams.
The phrase “go into the quantum” is meaningless. (I understand that Mr. Seer is trying to find an appropriate term and not necessarily succeeding.) It’s also hard to imagine an artificial intelligence based on silicon chips or even quantum computing technology— if AI ever does develop actual intelligence at all, that is— going poof and becoming non-material. Though of course I can’t say that it’s impossible.
That is NOT why Satan is called an angel! What the mythology of Satan/Lucifer says is that he was originally not only an angel, but the brightest of the angels, till he disagreed with God and was banished from heaven. It’s an extremely rich and resonant mine of archetypal and metaphorical truths.
AI can’t even tell whether something is factual, and as LLMs consume more and more of the slop that LLMs have produced, their output contains less and less truth and more and more egregious errors. That’s one of the factors that makes me a little less concerned that AI will become superintelligent and take over for that reason. I’m more worried that it will cause problems due to massive mistakes that it can’t even recognize because it’s actually so stupid.
I was stuck on the idea of God evolving. It contains such huge contradictions, yet as presented it does make sense. At any rate, there is no doubt that all things are changing and evolving at every moment, including AI, our relationship with the Visitors, and us ourselves.