With North Korea threatening a nuclear attack, wars in the middle east and Ukraine and China possibly invading Taiwan, the world situation has never been more unstable. We take a deep dive with world-class expert Robert Hastings into the gigantic story of visitor interest in nuclear weapons and nuclear facilities, and ask the critical question: if nuclear war breaks out, would they intervene, or can they?

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  1. This question should have been for last week’s show, but here it goes. Whitley mentioned that he thinks his implant comes from the dead, not the visitors. On the other hand, he wrote somewhere about the people who implanted him, and although they looked human they seemed to have some “mind control” capabilities: he could not/would not resist them (I hope I’m remembering this correctly). These capabilities are often attributed to the greys or the hybrids. So how can we reconcile this with Whitley’s suggestion that the implant comes from the dead? Is it that the dead and the visitors work together??

    1. How do we know the visitors are not already dead…but have developed the ability to project back into this reality through technological means…and bring the human dead back over with them, if they choose? Or perhaps they are from a yet undecovered realm and find passing between dimensional planes as easy as we would stepping into a body of water. Maybe to them (as far as accessibility is concerned) there is no difference between us and the dead…which might allow them to request, cajole, or manipulate either side to do their bidding, without too much effort.

      1. That’s a very intriguing idea and it deserves consideration, I’d say.

  2. Regarding the main point of this week’s Dreamland…my question would be, where were they when ‘Little Boy’ and ‘Fat Man’ were dropped?…or was that not destructive enough to warrent intervention?

    The Master of The Key, stated that nuclear explosions could derange souls (if I remember correctly)…that alone would seem like reason enough to act, if a compassionate species were able. If they were not able, fair enough, I suppose…but if they were and did nothing…then I have no words.

    1. Maybe the visitors intervene when the location and magnitude of the explosion is likely to affect their reality. I remember watching a documentary about Skinwalker Ranch and it seems even digging holes there can cause repercussions.

      1. Hmm, perhaps the sound of toys being thrown out of our pram, would only stir a response, if it was enough of a distraction to stop the adults from talking. I wonder if their motives for doing anything could ever be fully understood…or maybe they don’t want us to ever know.

    2. It’s awful to say, but Hiroshima and Nagasaki may have served as a useful warning to the human race that nuclear weapons are too dangerous to use.
      Without these two bombings, the cold war could have easily turned into an all-out nuclear war.
      Let’s hope that that world leaders have not forgotten that lesson yet.

      1. I’ve just read the synopsis from the link you provided and it does sound quite fascinating.
        Thanks for the tip…I’ve just downloaded it on Audible and as ‘luck’ would have it, I’ve finished the book I was listening to, last night.

      2. Trinity is a great book – a wonderful set of puzzle pieces to add to the research of the presence.

  3. The way I see the Visitors is, if they’re actually ‘aliens’ from elsewhere in what we call the universe (what might it actually be to them? What can they see, perhaps, that we can’t?), I feel like the only way they could become as advanced as they are is to work together, maybe even like a hive mind. With that kind of adhesion to one another, something like wars killing off their own species like we do here on earth would be anti-evolutionary. Right now, I’m thinking that territorial issues on the moon aren’t far off if we don’t get our own shit together here on earth, which seriously I don’t think will happen. If so many people are weak minded enough to let someone like Trump run what the rest of the world see as the leader of the free world, something has to be wrong. There’s some kind of glitch in our reality some might liken to The Matrix. The world changed after 9/11, then Covid, now nazis are on the rise again. Could those be temporal disruptions that maybe the Visitors are trying to repair? How could we possibly know?

    All that said, I think of course they’re altering our own destructive path. Perhaps they come from somewhere when what we’re about to do to ourselves condemns them as well.

    1. I HOPE they, or someone, can alter our destructive path, because as you say, we don’t seem to be able to!

      But the world has always been screwed up, with insane wars, demagogues, plagues, natural disasters. It’s not necessarily more screwed up than usual right now. The trouble is that we have 24/7 planet-wide news, so we know about bad stuff that happens immediately, and our technological toys can cause more destruction than ever before.

      I keep thinking of Gene Roddenberry’s concept that there would be a devastating WWIII and then humanity would get things figured out and create a much better world– but only after meeting the Vulcans– only after getting an intervention from folks who had already been through the worst and had developed some wisdom.

      Our Visitors are surely not the Vulcans…..

  4. There is so much complexity to all of this that I’m beginning to think it enables a level of obfuscation that is intentional. “Keep ’em guessing.” I’m not sure that we will ever figure out, or are meant too.

    I do feel like the construct of ‘time’ is a clue. Mike Cook talks about “some kind of glitch in our reality” and how” the world changed after 9/11″. What is strange to me is that in watching Dreamland in the last few months I find myself making a list of questions in my head and within minutes Whitley asks the questions just the way I thought them. This is happening more and more, but then maybe I’ve been at this for so many years (and so has Whitley) that it’s not as much intuitive as it is logical.

    9/11 was a marker, as was COVID in terms of being markers on the timeline, but I can’t help but think that like the Great Pandemic of 1918>COVID and WW1>WWII we will continue to get collective amnesia, which is why fascism is on the rise again. We never learn our lessons, which may drive other beings observing us kind of crazy. (Even though Nazis were allegedly trying to develop their own flying discs. Did they?)

    When I felt a big ‘whoa’ several years ago, it was not one that I expected. When the Mayan calendar ended in 2012 I felt a physical shift…and I had thought it was a bunch of hooey. Many thought that the end of the Mayan calendar was about the ‘end of time’, but maybe it was a ‘reset’?

    All I know is we are not in Kansas anymore.

    1. I have something similar happen where I’m thinking of or reading a word and someone speaks that word a moment later on TV. Sometimes there are spates of this happening a number of times in quick succession.

    2. Talking about time, the following scenario(s) came to mind…

      Let us say for a moment, that some of these visitors are actually time travellers, as has been suggested from multiple sources (- a connection with a landed triangular craft at Rendlesham and Bob Lazar indicating that at least one of the US military craft retreivals was ‘archeological’ in nature). And that jumping back in time is a one way process (as their presence changes the future, effectively creating a new time-line, so they can never get home to the future they left). I know this all sounds very sci-fi and that reality is likely way more complex than I could possibly imagine…but the ‘one-way-ticket’ thing would go a long way to explaining (at least in my mind), why some of these crashes seem sacrificial in nature.

      Also the genetic harvesting idea, of trying to repair future degraded DNA, might still be plausible, if the craft were then ‘buried’ for future archaeological retreaval by whomever sent them (-assuming from a future perspective, the craft were always buried…but they only knew ‘where’ until after they sent them back, to complete the time loop…LOL, headache anyone?)

      My only real problem with all this, is that it seems to slip too far towards the nuts-and-bolts hypothesis, which is not giving nearly enough perpective to include all the other truly strange aspects that are endemic to the wider phenomena.

      It all makes for great sci-fi fodder though!

      1. Yeah, I’m probably talking about two different types of time loops there…if only a real time traveller could let me know how all this stuff works!

      2. Not so farfetched, Sherbet. Many years ago, Linda Moulton Howe covered a story about a being called “J-Rod”, who was from the future. It also involved a scientist named Dan Burisch. Earthfiles has some of the best information and interviews on this, but there is a paywall and it cannot be accessed by non-subscribers. Here is a a basic information page about Burisch and J-Rod from another source, but it may be worth it to you to subscribe to Earthfiles to get all the details. Many put out that Burisch was a total liar and fake, which is to be expected, but the story is compelling…but weird.

        https://projectcamelot.org/dan_burisch_summary.html

    3. Graham Hancock makes the argument that the Mayan calendar was indicating a 70 year period in terms of astronomical alignment and the prophesies left for us.

  5. Robert Hasting, please do come back for another interview:

    Certainly only my thoughts here, BUT I would think any entity outside of our physical planet would rather inherit a planet transformed by earth changes rather then stepping onto an earth that has been decimated by nuclear war. Do they know? Are they waiting? Will climate change and everything that goes along with it happen first?

    And yes ELENE, I too believe humanity, at least some of humanity, is changing in frequency/vibration. I have also seen and experienced an increase in synchronicities regarding my own family and friends.

    https://www.aol.com/crucial-ocean-current-system-could-190032604.html

  6. I recall discussion within the UFO community where Eisenhower has a meeting with the ET’s who gave him a choice of giving up our weapons of mass destruction for a more utopian world. Because Eisenhower essentially could not agree to this, the world has been armed with nuclear weapons for decades. I suspect that ET has stopped all nuclear launches on populated areas since Nagasaki, as Robert Hasting suggests. I also suspect that ET has withheld all forms of “free” energy, (which is what they would have given us had we agreed to disarmament of all weapons of mass destruction) and will do so until we as a species give up all weapons of mass destruction. I am curious if anyone has been researching this possibility?

    1. Eisenhower was torn. He also knew the problems inherent in the ‘military industrial complex’. WWII changed the nature of the game with weapons capable of destroying all of humanity. The issues of an alien presence would have just added another level of fear and complexity. I’m sure he had nightmares about it all during and after his presidency.

      https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwight-d-eisenhowers-farewell-address

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