This week’s guest, Verna Lee Hutton-Ely, has authored a work of fiction based on some of her experiences called, In the Shade of a Shadow of Reason: a Vlee of Twin Willows novel. Her experiences are numerous and appear to conform to her location and interests–another sign that there is a singular intelligence acting through numerous masks we often call alien, fairy, spirit, ghost, and so on. Unless… unless it is the land of Twin Willows itself that is alive with subtle realm beings.

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In this, the second conversation with an experiencer named "Shawn," we get into his visitor encounters that seem to be about love on the one hand, yet provoke great fear on the other. Perhaps, through this discussion, we will discover why.
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In the third and final interview with "Brian," we pick it up where last we left off: with his father, who worked in the aerospace industry, telling him he worked with aliens and alien technology. If Brian is telling the truth and his father was telling the truth… might it still be a lie? It might. And that’s only the jumping off point for this episode. Get ready for grays, mantis beings, UFOs, and the type of deep questioning such topics demand.
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