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Ben Moss is Chief Field Investigator for MUFON, in Virginia. He’s been researching UFOs for over 20 years and is unimpressed with the evidence that aliens are behind ufological phenomena, Now, he’s taking a fresh look at the classic Socorro UFO event, known as Project Blue Book’s best unsolved case. Let’s see what he’s found–and then let’s see where else this conversation takes us!

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The Defense Intelligence Agency has prepared a report for the House Armed Services Committee regarding the findings of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the secret UFO program run by the Pentagon between 2007 and 2012. News of the report was included in the April edition of The Congressional Record, although the details regarding the contents of the letter are unknown. Additionally, UFO investigator Nick Pope reports that the Senate Armed Services Committee is currently investigating the 2004 encounter between the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group and a fast-moving UFO.
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Host Jeremy Vaeni invites ufological reporter Jack Brewer onto what was going to be a solo episode, to unpack his new hypothesis that ufology was redesigned in the 1990s, by a U.S.read more

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Paul Dean is a meticulous researcher of historical documents pertaining to UFOs. Admittedly, he does the dry work few others dare, a thankless task to be sure. What makes it worth his time? What has he found? And how has it changed his perspective on the alien question? These questions and more on this week’s episode!