Are We in a Soul Trap?

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Whitley’s longtime friend, UFO researcher and past life therapist Joe Lewels has come to feel strongly that Earth is a soul trap and it is up to us to find our way out. As Whitley puts it in the show, “if we’re trapped here forever then this is a prison. If not, then it’s a school.” But which is it?? Listen to this intense and provocative discussion that begins with a long-ago secret meeting arranged by Laurance Rockefeller between Whitley and Anne Strieber, John Mack, Edgar Mitchell and Joe Lewels. Amazing, powerful and provocative from beginning to end!

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  1. I’m not sure that I have lived my life correctly, but I have to say that I was very familiar with everything that was discussed…including reincarnation and the Cathars. Yes, many of them have reincarnated at this time. I try not to get involved with belief systems, but I keep it simple:

    Kindness
    Love
    Forgiveness

    Those 3 things are not easy, at all. If you can extend those 3 things to yourself everyday, and realize that you deserve those things, extending them to all beings is easier. Being human, I struggle with them too.

  2. Whitley and Webmaster: The link to purchase the book is not there, it’s just text.

    Just started listening to the subscriber version. Going to be a good show I can tell.

  3. A fantastic show.
    No one who does not know themselves as a soul can possibly understand the ‘Visitors’. Soul wisdom is the only hope for humanity.

  4. I used to find the idea of reincarnation comforting. At some point I found it unsettling to reincarnate here again. Not that I don’t enjoy life. It can be very difficult, though.

    Sometimes I wonder if past life regression isn’t necessarily always your past life being viewed, but tapping into the way we are all connected.

    When I was very young I remember a guy working on our roof had a concentration camp tattoo on his wrist, that always stuck with me. Forgiveness is a godly power we can wield.

    Great show, thanks.

  5. A lot of us have wondered about reincarnation. I recall having a dream about living on Mars a long time ago but was it just a dream or a soul memory? The people living there were much taller than us and had slightly elongated faces. The face on the Turin shroud reminds me of their faces a bit. So, is it imagination or something deeper trying to resurface?

    I’d love to know for sure but even I have to concede that such knowledge or realisation may harm our soul’s journey into and beyond denser transports.

  6. Whitley and Joe Lewels, I found this interview emotionally moving, thank you.

    This is what I have come to believe, RIGHT OR WRONG??? As living souls, we have the ability to inhabit any universe, galaxy or planet that will help us in our soul growth. When anyone experiences the presence of extraterrestrials that feel like family, they probably are family.

    Thought I would include the many incarnations of Jesus according to Edgar Cayce:

    (1) Amilius
    (2) Adam
    (3) Enoch
    (4) Hermes
    (5) Melchizedek
    (6) Joseph
    (7) Joshua
    (8) Asaph
    (9) Jeshua
    (10) Zend
    (11) Jesus

    Jesus was the man who attained complete “at-onement” and human-divine unity and therefore became “the Christ.” Note that “Joshua”, “Jeshua”, and “Jesus” are really the same name. The name “Jesus” is a Latinization of the Aramaic “Jeshua” or “Yeshua” which is in turn taken from the Hebrew “Yehoshua” or “Joshua.” So, the name “Jesus” refers to many heroes in the Hebrew Bible. Cayce therefore assigned the soul-entity Jesus to the same name for three separate incarnations. Cayce also revealed that the Jesus of the New Testament was registered by his Essene school under the name of “Jeshua.”

    (12) ????? of the Second Coming

  7. “I forgave them all.”

    “I can almost see the chains…”

    These two statements speak the most clearly to me in regards to our “school”.

  8. Those are powerful statements that come from the soul itself, IKNOWWHATISAW… I believe we all have an Oversoul/Higher Self. It is the part of us that Barbara Brennan calls the “godhead”. It does not interfere with our free will, but watches benignly when we make mistakes and must learn from them. This connection sends us “messages” and “signals” to guide us in this incarnation or this Earthly path through time. We get distracted by negative stuff and miss those messages, which can occur in hunches, dreams and symbols and synchronicities. Karma is just a lesson we have to learn in order to evolve our souls towards a more expanded awareness.
    I believe that I had an incarnation during Jesus’s lifetime because I have had several dreams about being there then. Maybe I was the woman handing out the loaves of bread! Or maybe I was someone else, but I do know I was a follower of Jesus. The synchronicity here for me is that I just finished rereading Whitley’s book “Jesus: A New Vision”.
    The Earth is a school, not a prison. This is ancient knowledge. Joe talks about Hybrids and how, over millennia humankind has been evolving. I think that it is quite possible that this is true, given the Visitors bent for tinkering with genetics. It’s not just a seedbank They have been creating, but us and our very evolution. I think it’s possible that the Hybrids that Whitley talks about in the interview are just a different type and he has been shown or had encounters with these people/beings for a reason, but I don’t know what the reason could or would be. Meanwhile, my theory is that many NHI are here, among us now, and we are slowly recognizing Them as They appear in our daily lives.
    On YouTube, there is a post titled “It Was This That Jesus Did Before The Age of Thirty l Edgar Cayce Revealed” by Soul In Reflection. Most of their posts are difficult to watch because of the misspellings and what I would call “hokey”, but it’s well worth a listen.
    What I am more interested in is the story of Whitley’s incarnation during the time of the Cathars… please post a Journal entry or include a Detailed addendum of your memories and experiences of that lifetime to “The Path” when you republish it, Whitley! I’m sure it will sell out just because of that itself! I would love to know what you experienced when you traveled to France recently and visited the chapel/church… whose grave was it you went to see and pay your respects to? I think many of your subscribers and readers want to know…
    Peace

    1. As far as I can gather (at the 1h 20m mark), Whitley was talking about the grave of Marie Dénarnaud, the companion and confidant of Abbé Bérenger Saunière.

      1. I would recommend for those interested in the Cathars to take a deep dive into their history and what happened to them. It’s complex, and there’s even hints as to the Knights Templar. It’s a horrible tale.

        Just two days ago, someone wrote an opinion piece in our local paper called, ‘Catholic school response to Trump’s call to prayer’. This individual used the death of St.Peter of Verona at the hands of a Cathar as an example of how “politics haven’t really changed much over the centuries”. Neither has religion, because he conveniently left out what the Catholic Church did to the Cathars…along with other non-Catholic faiths in Europe at the time.( And that Peter was a Grand Inquisitor for the Church.) My heart truly sank when I read it, and I could not believe it was being said in the 21st century, by an avowed Catholic, no less.
        ‘The Cather View: The Mysterious Legacy of Montségur’ edited by Dave Patrick, is a good place to begin, since it has 25 contributors, including some who have other life memories as Cathars. I don’t tend to think of reincarnation in terms of past lives, which I won’t go into…but I’m not at all surprised at Whitley being a Cathar.

  9. Thank-You Sherbet! I confess, though being Canadian, I am not bilingual… yet. Whitley’s French pronunciation was/is probably impeccable, but it went right past my listening ear and I just couldn’t make it out…

  10. This discussion keeps turning over in my mind. I attended a funeral yesterday, coming away from it feeling humbled, though with a sense of dread and melancholia, I made my way home and spent the rest of the afternoon in bed, feeling exhausted.

    Something Mr Strieber said kept coming back to me and it was with regard to the Archons having more control over our reality than we often consider. There seem to be times where we think we’re feeling a little deflated or perhaps even down but it’s not quite that.

    The Marshalls of humanity may be able to craft a void within us that our soul or spirit automatically begins working on. I don’t know sometimes, you think you know yourself then wonder what changed so suddenly.

    When we doubt ourselves times I think it’s important to consider that there is often work going on in the background that isn’t obvious.

  11. This discussion keeps turning over in my mind. I attended a funeral yesterday, coming away from it feeling humbled, though with a sense of dread and melancholia, I made my way home and spent the rest of the afternoon in bed, feeling exhausted.

    Something Mr Strieber said kept coming back to me and it was with regard to the Archons having more control over our reality than we often consider. There seem to be times where we think we’re feeling a little deflated or perhaps even down but it’s not quite that.

    The Marshalls of humanity may be able to craft a void within us that our soul or spirit automatically begins working on. I don’t know sometimes, you think you know yourself then you wonder what changed so suddenly.

    When we doubt ourselves at times I think it’s important to consider that there is work going on in the background that isn’t obvious.

  12. Just remembered, didn’t Linda M Howe once point out that the same day that Dr John Mack died in London by a drunk driver that another man called John Mack was also killed in an accident by a drunk driver? Archon interference?

  13. Very interesting show. I just wish he had kept his own personal opinions about the Gaza war to himself, because it had no place in this podcast.

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